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      ¥۵ļ̽:

      Dz¥֪, ΪǴԽ, ˮƽҲڵ۹ʵʳ, ĩռƻȺߵ붼ȥ

      1. ǵʯ http://www.alternatehistory.com/ ... thread.php?t=164384

      ǵʯ1925Ѿķ, Ǻʹһ, Զʮļ˵ʵ̫, ôȥīύ? սǰͼƻԺʯ͹Ӧ׵ѿһõսԼƻ

      2. ĸۿԼ

      Ҫֱ֪Ӯ֮ǰһֱĹϴ, ϣīĺ, ˹֮ǰīǰǵ. ˵ϣʹϣ, ˵ȵ¹򷨹Ⱦ͵ȵ¹, սһͿ, ǵ·ͣսս. Ϊһ۹ͳ̳, īͬ1939껹Dzļѵĵ¹ȡۿ?

      ˵Ǩ촬. ˵ʵȵ¹촬˵, ٲȥ. òƲðǨ? Ǩ14Ͼ촬ô

      һҪ. սʱIJ. սձκһ,Ӣ, սʱڽĽԶԶԸıս. ձǿ, ĵùڽٶȶ, ʵĻ, ԴЧʸЩȻ󲻾һһȵĵֵĻŷҲӲһ., Ҿڿվ½˫캽ĸǸͷ. ر㻹Ҫ, к͵, ͵, ͵Ӣ, ЩĽͶһ. ¹սƻڳԱһս󺣾ϱ, ǸԴʱȥչһµĺ?

      кӢ, ֱܷ, Ȼվռ, ôӢȻܵ

      3. Լк

      ԱֳؿǺĵ, ʷǿش̫˲ž˼, Եкǵں, ¹ٽк, ˵⺣˭ѽ? к᲻?

      4.

      άϣȷʵDZȽ϶ص뷨, սнֻܲܵ˵(׵), һսIJʺƻҶ֪, ˵ӢֵIJ. һΪάϵDz̫ܱϵĺֳغͺô͹ڽ. Ҫα֤άϣĻ. ͲܹѹƷ, Ǵһս·ij̫. 㲻ѹƷ, ¹ľͲ.

      ձԽϵͼ

      5.

      ʷϵյս˴ϴĿ. ˹ֿŹ¼ƻ. ¹ɨŷ, Ӣҹս. ִҵͶ. ʷϵһ¿սʧǰ߲ӵ7, 㿼7ɾһװԱŷʲô, Ź10?

      ʵΪ˵, ΪԽ֪½ʵ, ʵΪ廹Dz. ʷһսӵ¹߲С, һô, ͬʱҲյ»ŵҪʯ. Ҳ˵, , ȻӢԶԵ¿ս.... ǸŲ׵羸, Ϊץŵ¹̫, رǵغ³ʿҪһȥͳ½.......

      6. Ӣ

      ӢҪ, , ƽ, Լ

      е߿սʷϲ, һǵ¹ǰߺձȶ̷ɲϿ޷, ս޴, һӢը˰ֵϣͶս. ӢûܺձһСɻ, ôֶӢ״վͻĿϮDZȽЧ, رDzе߿սǻӢȱɻǷԱ̫. ͨӢںϿսôԵ¹վǺ.

      ƽҲ鷳. ӢͻⲿѪ, ҪƽԸɲӢ, ¥Ĺ۵ֱֱȻ󺣾޵ĺ͵к. Ǽǿճ, õ¹ȫ¶Ӣ, ܿԳ˱ȥǿ͹㶫ȻŴɽһ. ǿӢͻ·غ, , Ӣǰҵŷ޽ʺ, ̨һͻûû˵Ķ, ǰӢƵôȥᰲһ. ͬʱҲᵼӢƵĺը¹, ѹڵһһ. Ȼ¥Ҫ˵ܺӢ̸Ҳ˵ȥ.

      ǽںӢ, ҲסĻ. ֱӢҲѼڱȥ. ֱʧάϵֳܸƹ, ôս߾ͱ˰ж, ΪǺͰǶֳ. ʵϵЧ

      7.

      ţ˹ɽ̫վ, ̫, ¹ǿdzֺõ. ˵ʸǷ˹, һֵַ, ԼСܴѵյĹ̨? սʱ˽ݿ˺ǾǷû취һ. ˶ս¹һֱǿʿĽںԼĴάֵ. ʹϵ˵ʹ.

      DZȸʸ繥ֱ, ʷϣѾѾ㹻ôŵ. ǽ, ߵһñ֤. , ˼, ںɨŷɴ, ʸȻż˹Ŀ, ϣҳ±վ?

      ȫǻߵսԹ͵ʱʷʵ, Ը, ӭƷ

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      ˵ǴԽ,ѾԽָ,αȥעʧܵĵ¹Ϊ,Ѫ,С,ʵʧź.

      㴩ԽֱӳΪԪ...ıʶ̬,θ.Ҫϣĸȡ.ҪDzϣƾԸ˵¹ս˵սԹ滮ijʵǾҪ̳Ԫʱ1941꣬¥쵼ǿĵ¹ˣѾǿĶӢľ֪ռжץԭӵ˵ˣʲôʹ¹ȸԭӵ㴩Խ֪ԭӵҲﲻѽֽԭӵ豸˶50045ǰռôǾֻܳʤ̸ץʱԭӵƽ⣬ս뷨ĻǺսˣ㲻ɣ

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