Vinay Sangareddy (San Francisco, California)
buy the Japanese trains. dont feed chinky people
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Arrowhead (Omnipresent!) replies to Vinay Sangareddy
A bit racist, but yes Free India should not by from China!
Having worked in the Shipping industry with companies that build ships and other steel production. I will strongly suggest that you go for Japan. For a little more you will be safe and your product will last much longer. I have seen both ,china and Japan Vessels in 10 years You can see the difference. Yes price is important,in this case you can sell the ship. What are you going to do with a rail line??
Don’t rely the Chinese. They will sell trains similar to their mobiles, which are cheap and poor in quality. Also we are having border conflicts with China. It is better to keep them off the scene and not give them chance to trade.
India will certainly opt for the best deal but first priority will always be Japan.
Being a hostile country China can not be trusted as railways are esential part of Defence and internal security . Japan is any day reliable for business deals . Hope Mr. Modi’s Japan visit will get India some good deals .
Aditya Srivastava (Unknown)
Even after more than 60 years of our Independence almost the entire sector of military, aircraft and railway equipments come from other nations. I don’t see this picture is going to change any time soon.
abcd P (india)
when will India become a 2nd world country , let alone first world. ???? India is so far behind when it comes indigenous technology on almost any field one can think of…
China product cost will be less & of poor quality,, Go for Japs.. quality & gud trader partnership exists,, track will also be reqd to upgraded
In China these bullet trains run almost empty as cost of travelling is very high .Our poor nation can not afford to travel in these trains .Better use this huge amount in other things .Spend this money to produce defence needs be self sufficient .
Should we think buying technology from other. why we can’t invent technology in our own country….
Ajit (Mumbai) replies to Prakash
Till now it was not possible as our Engineers and Scientists were getting salary from two sources. 1) from the Government 2) from foreign companies interested in supplying the material to our country.
balu.pallathu (Location) replies to Prakash
We cannot re-invent wheel every time. Some times buying will bring quality, more comfortable, less maintenance products like from Japan.
what about technology transfer?the government should take help of there Japanese counterpart to set up establishments in india to manufacture bullet rails indeginously.
India should buy from Japan with an agreement of producing part of it in India to make to closer to Chinese cost besides bringing large employment in India. We may be able to match the price of China, with Japanese quality along with good employment and technology in India.
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chinese products never come with a guarantee..not even trains
Atul Patel (Unknown)
Do not buy Chinese technology. They will black mail India in name of spare parts and even stop supply of spare in case tension grow at border. Buy Japanese technology. Japanese are reliable suppliers.
buy Japanese high quality and filled with good heart products. . even at double price. ..
If we calculate the cost to build 1 kilometer, it will be same for both China and Japan. Some times Chinese is more than Japanese. Japanese build for 17 billion, Chinese build for 35 billion for double distance. So, 17 17 = 34. So, CHinese is 1 billion higher cost than Japanese. But Chinese is worst quality and maintenance problems. But Japan train is 100 times the quality, safety, comfort, less maintenance than Chinese trains. Now tell me which train is good. Ultimately Japanese trains.
If you want 4 generation back trains go for Chinese, If you want latest generation trains go for Japan. If you want cheap plastic toy trains, go for Chinese, if you want smooth quality cars like trains, go for Japan.
Perhaps India should reduce its risks by initially buying trains from both China & Japan. That way we will build good working relationships with both countries, build up our knowledge with both types of trains and eventually try to make our own.
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anonymous (India) replies to Anthony
We need to be clear in our approach, can’t compromise on such a huge endeavour, that too by pleasing someone who doesn’t want to be a friend. Pleasing a country by buying its lower quality product will end us up again in a tricky situation. And how can we predict that our boundaries will be safe then! Can you rely those mischievous mind? We need to break our shells which hampers us to do the best thing. Like already mentioned we should push for maximum benefits, like FDI, tools, technology from Japan along with trains.
Anthony Morais replies to anonymous
Not so much to please China but to reduce our overall costs. Also we should pursue a “carrot & stick” approach with China. China should feel an incentive to be on friendly relations with India. If we only focus on always punishing them and arming against them the inevitability of hostilities increases. Besides by buying from both we force them to give us their best deals on all products, not just trains!
balu.pallathu (Location) replies to Anthony
Japan’s train sample not needed. It is well quality build. We get Chinese train a sample, we run it for a year and don’t order one.
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caesar.appleton (UK) replies to balu.pallathu
The Chinese are smarter than you think. And won’t be taken for a ride – rest assured
Japan’s one would almost undoubtedly be the better product, the question then becomes can India afford it.
balu.pallathu (Location) replies to Morgan
If we calculate the yearly maintenance of Chinese Trains. We can break-even by 3 years. So, Japanese trains will be better investment and long lasting.