外国网友激烈评论:间谍事件加剧中国与加拿大的紧张

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Spying case heightens China-Canada tensions, reflects splitin Ottawa

间谍事件加剧了中国与加拿大的紧张关系,反应出渥太华内部的分歧

OTTAWA (Reuters) - China'sdecision to investigate two Canadians for suspected spying highlights a sharpand unexpected deterioration in bilateral ties just months ahead of a trip by Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper to Beijing.

渥太华(路透社) 在加拿大总理史蒂芬哈珀将于数月后访问北京之前,中国决定调查两个加拿大人涉嫌间谍一事,凸显尖锐和意想不到的双边关系的恶化。

The detention of the couple, long-time residentsin China who ran a coffeeshop on the border with North Korea,could also make life tougher for the small group of Canadian governmentministers who favor closer economic links with Beijing.

被拘留的这一对,是在中国的长期居民,并在靠近北朝鲜边境经营一家咖啡店。也可以让加拿大那些关心经济与北京紧密联系的政府大臣抱团强硬面对。

Chinese authorities are investigatingthe couple - Kevin Garratt and his wife Julia Dawn Garratt - for suspectedtheft of military and intelligence information and for threatening nationalsecurity.

中国当局正在调查这一对,凯文·高和他夫人朱莉亚,因涉嫌盗窃军队情报信息威胁国家安全。

The detention came less than a weekafter Canada accused Chinesehackers of breaking into a key computer network, the first time it has eversingled out Chinafor such a security breach. Beijingdismissed the allegations as "irresponsible."

在加拿大指控中国黑客闯入一处电脑网络核心后不到一星期就拘留了,这是第一次因一个安全漏洞而单独挑选出中国,北京驳斥对其指控是不负责任的。

The two incidents look set toovershadow a visit by Harper to Beijing inNovember for a regional summit which could include a first meeting with China'sPresident Xi Jinping.

两件事情可能会使哈伯11月份的北京之行失色不少,哈伯可能与中国国家主席习大大在一场区域峰会上第一次会面。

Since taking power in early 2006, Canada's right-leaning Conservatives haveadopted an inconsistent policy on China,reflecting splits between pro-business members and social conservatives who aresuspicious of Beijing.

自从2006年执政以来,加拿大右翼保守党在中国问题上采取矛盾的政策,反应出亲商业的成员与那些不信任北京的社会保守党之间的分歧。

"There is a deep division within caucus and within cabinet on how torespond ... there is a clear battle," said Paul Evans, a professor at the University of British Columbia and one of Canada'sleading experts on China.

Paul Evans,加拿大英属哥伦比亚大学叫兽,并且是加拿大顶级中国问题专家,他说:对于如何回应,在政党高层范围内以及内阁范围内,存在巨大的裂痕,这是一个清晰的战场。

Evans said attempts by the cabinet toagree on a Chinastrategy had failed in recent years.

他说 :近年来,内阁试图在中国策略上保持一致已经失败。

An official in Harper's officedeclined to comment, saying merely that "we have a frank and maturedialogue on a variety of levels with the Chinese".

哈伯办公室一位官员拒绝评论,说我们与中国有各个层级有坦率而又慎重对话。

Social conservatives are influentialin the Western oil-rich province of Alberta, whichattracts around 80 percent of total Chinese energy investment.

社会保守党人在西部盛产石油的艾伯塔省有影响力,这个省吸引了将近80%的中国能源投资。

The unofficial leader is EmploymentMinister Jason Kenney, who party officials say is very cautious about gettingtoo close to China.

非官方领袖是就业部长,Jason Kenney,说政党官员在靠近中国问题上非常谨慎的。

Government sources say Kenney isopposed inside cabinet by members such as Foreign Minister John Baird and TradeMinister Ed Fast, who favor more investment by China to boost a flagging Canadianeconomy.

政府消息人士说Kenney反对内阁内部比如外交部长John Baird和贸易部长Ed Fast所支持的更多中国投资来提升萎靡的加拿大经济。

"Some ministers are for, someare against, while the majority are wary," one veteran Conservative toldReuters.

一个资深的保守党成员告诉路透社:一些部长支持,一些反对,同时大多数是谨慎的。

"Certainly no one is going tostand up right now and talk about the need for closer ties with China."

当然,没有人目前会站出来谈论与中国之间更紧密的联系。

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Harper last visited China in February 2012 and vowed to do all hecould to boost exports of Canadian crude while calling for more Chineseinvestment in Canada.

哈伯上次访问中国是在2012年的2月,他发誓要尽其所能提升加拿大的原油出口,同时邀请更多的中国的投资来加拿大。

Yet when the Chinese did make a movea few months later - state-owned CNOOC Ltd bid for energy firm Nexen, based inAlberta - it appeared to catch Canada off-guard.

数月之后,中国人开始行动了,国有企业中海油收购位于阿尔伯塔的能源企业尼尔森,他的出现让加拿大措手不及。

Amid rare scenes of open discordamong Conservatives over the wisdom of the deal, Harper approved it in December2012 but slapped restrictions on how much of the Canadian energy sector thatChinese state-owned enterprises could buy.

在一副开放的不和谐的保守党之间就交易的智慧出现罕见场面,哈珀于2012年12月份批准了,但在中国国有企业可以买的加拿大能源部门价格上采取限制措施。

Spokespeople for Harper and ForeignMinister John Baird declined to comment on any aspect of the case against theCanadian couple.

哈伯的发言人以及外交部长John Baird,拒绝就加拿大这对夫妻的事件发表评论。

The Garratts' eldest son, Simeon,told Reuters that Canadian embassy officials are in contact with his brother,Peter, in Dandong.

凯文·高的大儿子,西蒙,告诉路透社,加拿大大使馆官员在丹东接触了他的弟弟,皮特。

Canadian officials say plans arebeing made for Harper to tour major cities in China in November.

加拿大官员说哈珀11月份访问中国主要城市的行程计划安排正在制定。

"This (spying) incident isundoubtedly going to have a chilling effect on Mr Harper's meetings with theChinese authorities," said Brock University professor Charles Burton, a formerCanadian diplomat who served two tours in China.

布鲁克大学叫兽,Charles Burton,前加拿大外交官,曾两次被派驻中国。他说这次间谍事件,毫无疑问会使哈伯与中国当局领导人之间的会面降温。

The decision to allow the Nexen dealto go ahead was a clear defeat for Kenney, who is one of the favorites toeventually replace Harper.

对Kenney来说,允许尼尔森交易的决定先通过是个明显的失败,他被认为是哈伯的最终替代者之一。

"It's now getting caught up inelectoral politics, potential succession politics in the ConservativeParty," said Evans. The next federal election is due in October 2015.

Evans说:是时候进入选举政治,保守党内部潜在的获胜政治家。下一次联邦选举是在2015年10月。

Harper kept his distance from Chinafor years, citing its human rights record, but under pressure from businessstarted to make an effort to improve ties.

哈伯保持与中国的距离有好些年了,因其人权纪录,但迫于商业压力开始为发展其关系而努力。

Government officials say China is an obvious source for some of the C$650billion ($590 billion) investment in the natural resources patch that Ottawa says will be neededover the next decade or so.

政府官员说中国明显是对5900亿美元的投资在自然资源上的补充,在未来10年里明显需要。

And yet the split inside Harper'sConservatives is also reflected among Canadians in general.

哈伯的右翼保守党内部的分裂,也普遍反应在加拿大人之中。

A poll for the Vancouver-based AsiaPacific Foundation of Canada in June showed Canadian support for engagementwith Asia is declining. Only 41 percent saw China's growing economic power as more of anopportunity than a threat for Canada,down from 48 percent in 2013. ($1=$1.10 Canadian)

加拿大温哥华的亚太基金会6月所做的民调显示加拿大人支持与亚洲关系的正在下滑,只有41%支持率认为对加拿大来说,中国成长中的经济力量更多的是一个机会而非威胁,低于2013年的48%。

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评论:

China pulling a tit for tat with a couple that probably aren'tspies. It's about time for the West to start sanctioning China for theirterritory grabs in the Pacific before they pull a Putin on us. Do it now andprevent something bad from happening, or do it later after it's happened whenit'll be harder to roll them back, your choice.

中国对这一夫妇的针锋相对,可能他们不是间谍。是时候西方对中国在太平洋上的领土抢夺实施制裁,在他们拉上普京对付我们之前。现在行动起来阻止一些坏事情的发生,否则发生后很难让他们滚回去的时候,再做就迟了,你看着办吧。

This is what happened. The Garratt couple'scoffee business is doing well. A Chinese entrepreneur wants to take it away.

事情是这样的,凯文夫妇的咖啡生意不错,一个中国的企业家希望他卷铺盖走人。

I'm not sure what this article is saying. Itsounds kind of nuts, so I'm just putting this out there.

Is this article trying to say that theCanadians are mad at the Chinese for catching their spies??? That literallymakes no sense to me. You would think that the people getting SPIED ON would bethe angry ones. Are the Canadians mad for getting caught??? Bizarre.

我不确定这篇文章在说些什么,听上去在胡说八道,因此我只有把这个拿开。这篇文章是在试图说加拿大人因为中国抓住了他们的间谍而发疯?字面上对我来说没有意义。你可能会认为,发现人们越来越生气,加拿大人会因为被抓而发疯吗?匪夷所思。。。。

Sounds like thugs are trying to rough up theCanadians! Ethics are for the rest of the world, not China! They are scared ofChristians proselytising!

听上去像是恶棍正试图殴打加拿大人!伦理道德不是对中国,而是对世界上其他地方。他们惧怕基督徒传教!!!

if these suspect are not Canadian spies, whycanada regime is mobilizing huge propaganda network to threaten china govt。 such action might affect relationship between china and canada?it donot make any sense.there are many cases where canadian found to be guilty inother part of world, i have not seen such strong reaction by canadian govt.

如果这些嫌疑犯不是加拿大间谍,为什么加拿大政府鼓动庞大的宣传网络来威胁中国政府,这个行为可能影响中加之间的关系吗?这没有任何意义,有很多情况下,在世界其他地方加拿大人被发现是有罪的,我还没有看到加拿大官立如此强烈的反应。

With virtually no details available to thepublic, recent history tells us that the Chinese are more concerned withChristian prosletyzing by this couple - which is reported elsewhere - andslapped on the espionage charges as being a more convenient, palatable anddirect rebuttal to the Canadian cyber-espionage charges... Anyway, who wants toset up a coffee-shop in Northern China next tothe North Korean border...unless they had some ulterior activities?

事实上,没有公开细节可以获取,目前的历史告诉我们,中国人对这对基督传教士更多的是厌烦,众所周知,以间谍活动为理由而制止更加方便,更合口味,直接对加拿大网络间谍指控的回应。顺便说一句,谁会在中国东北靠近北朝鲜边境开一间咖啡馆,除非他们有不可告人的行为。

Really china is upset about spying?......Thenerve after most of their technology has been stolen from the west and usedagainst us economically, militarily, etc. Maybe we ought to react to theirtransgressions with a united front and tell them to keep their lead ladengarbage errr consumer goods made from their prisons and child labor! They aresuch a paranoid government that the mere mention of Tiananmen Square shakes them to the core! Rotten Rotten!!!!

中国真的对间谍活动感到心烦?他们大部分的科技从西方偷过来用来对抗我们的经济,军事等等。或许我们应当对他们的违法行为做出反应并结成统一战线,并告诉以防止他们领导装满来自他们监狱及童工制造的垃圾消费品。他们有如此偏执狂政府,以至于提到8*8事件就让它们内心颤抖,腐败,腐败!

why people keep forgetting that china playsdirty is beyond me.

为什么人们选择忘记中国人玩阴的在我们之上。

Looks like Canada has succumbed to theAmerican disease.

看上去加拿大已经屈服于美国的病毒。

F Canada. Go China!

去你的加拿大,中国加油!

Why should anyone bother investigating.Bloggers seem to have scoops on "what it is really about". They have"inside" information. Lol.

为什么会为调查而烦神?博客作者看上去执着于真相是什么,他们有内部信息,哈哈!

The whole incident may be an election ploy setup by Chinaand Harper. Harper's impending journey to China in a few months may result inHarper bringing these two Canucks home in the same plane and Harper hopes hewill shine and smell like roses for the voters in next year's election. But myfeeling is he will be defeated and booted out of office anyway ploy or no ploy.

整个事件可能是中国和哈伯策划的选举花招,哈伯数月后即将到来的中国之行将会以带这两个温哥华人坐同一班飞机回家而结束,哈伯希望在来年的选举中对于投票人来说他会象玫瑰一样闪耀和芳香,但我感觉是他将被击败,同时被赶出办公室,无计可施。

They are working for CIA, not for goverment of Canada.

他们效力于美国中央情报局,不是加拿大政府。

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