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Chinese ships intentionallyramming Vietnamese vessels in battle over ocean oil rig
HANOI, Vietnam — Chinese ships are ramming and sprayingwater cannons at Vietnamese vessels trying to stop Beijing from setting up anoil rig in the South China Sea, according to Vietnamese officials and videoevidence Wednesday, a dangerous escalation of tensions in disputed watersconsidered a global flashpoint.
With neither side showing any sign ofstepping down, the standoff raises the possibility that more serious clashescould break out. Vietnam said several boats have been damaged and six people onthe vessels have been injured by broken glass.
Vietnam, which has no hope of standing up toChina militarily, said it wants a peaceful solution and — unlike China — hadn’tsent any navy ships to areas close to the $1 billion deep sea rig. But a topofficial warned that “all restraint had a limit.”
“Our maritime police and fishing protectionforces have practised extreme restraint, we will continue to hold on there,”Ngo Ngoc Thu, vice commander of Vietnam’s coast guard, told a speciallyarranged news conference in Hanoi. “But if [the Chinese ships] continue to raminto us, we will respond with similar self-defence.”
“我们的海警和渔业保护力量已经表现了极其的克制，我们会一直在那坚守，” Ngo Ngoc Thu越南海岸警备队的副司令在河内的特别新闻发布会上说。“但是如果中国舰船继续撞击我们，我们会采取类似的自卫行为。”
The disruptive activities by the Vietnameseside are in violation of China’s sovereign rights
China’s stationing of the oil rig, which wasaccompanied by a flotilla of military and civilian ships, on May 1 has beenseen as one of its most provocative steps in a gradual
campaign of assertingits sovereignty in the South China Sea, parts of which are also claimed byVietnam, the Philippines and other Southeast Asian nations.
Vietnam immediately dispatched marine policeand fishery protection vessels to the area, but they were harassed as theyapproached, Thu said.
“But if [the Chinese ships] continue to ram into us, we will respond with similarself-defence.”
So they admitted that China is only practisingself-defense. Either that, or even top Vietnamese government departments can'tbe allocated a budget for English lessons?
He spoke Vietnamese, not English. Or you're so dumb tounderstand that.
As we can see, the oil rig isn't right next to Vietnam'scoastline, but next to Paracels, which China began re-administering in 1974. Sowhy is Vietnam raising a big tantrum over a 40 year-old fait accompli?
They were looking for problems, meanwhile paint us as theaggressors.
Because Chinese discovered oil and greedy Vietnamesethieves tried to extort China hoping their white horse prince Sam will come andhelp them fight the Red Chinese Dragon.
Vietcong does understand that its survival depends on PRC.
However, now the entire Vietnam has beenpolitically hijacked by the anti-China/pro-West ultra-nationalists. They arepushing their own government to provoke China, even we are drilling close toour own coast.
Vietcong is also afraid of those pro-Westright-wing groups. If it wasn't the reason that Vietnam is still a socialistcountry, China would already have bombed them.
You said many things confused yourself.
PRC attacked VN in 1974 to rob Paracel>>> so Chinese know there's oil, their greedy rise and attackVietnamese.
If Vietnamese government is so afraidpro-Western people, so Vietnam should shake hand with China, hide the news thatPRC drag oil rig, ignore eveything and keep living.
Chinese mental is amazing me as always.
Kyle Sun天朝For god 's sake .
China even did not have the tech and equipmentto detect oil in deep ocean . 看在上帝的份上。中国那时候还没有技术和设备去探测海洋石油。 ChineseTiger1986天朝
Your government always wants to close an eyeon this and to maintain the status quo.
However, it is the pro-West media in Vietnam cooking up these tabloids, nowthey are hijacking the populism and forcing the Vietnamese government toconfront against China. 你们的政府一直想要睁一只眼闭一只眼，维持现状。但是，正是越南胡编乱造的亲西方媒体裹挟了民粹主义，强迫越南政府对抗中国。
But I see everything seem like ok with mostpeople in Vietnam. Pro-Western is so small to do anything can forcing VietGovernment do this or that.
Many people think PRC Government drag the rigto Vietnamese EEZ; make a tension show, to draw Chinese people out internalproblems like instability and unrest terrorist action at recent time. 哦，真的？？？但是我看到大部分越南人都认同这样做。亲西方太小众了不能左右政府做这做那。很多人认为中国政府将井达到了越南的专属经济区，制造紧张，把中国民众从内部问题像近来的不稳定和恐怖主义行为吸引开。
TaiShang天朝Then you should educate your people that itis not Vietnamese EEZ. It is within China's EEZ.
Maybe your government is trying to pull out astunt to dupe people out of their miserable economic conditions and re-directtheir anger at their own incapable government?
那么你应该好好教一教你们越南人，那里不是越南的专属经济区。那里在中国的专属经济区内。可能你们政府用这种小伎俩欺骗你们的人民，把他们的愤怒从你们可悲的经济和无能的政府身上吸引开。 BoQ77安南Hey ... Chinese ships ramming Vietnameseauthority ships and made damage Vietnamese in the Vietnam EEZ ...
It cannot be right, it's totally wrong, China ...
eazzy法国If its wrong then why don't respond ? I meanyou won against the US right ? It should be easy.
BoQ77安南What do you mean with "don'trespond" ? Which way do you want us to respond ?
eazzy法国Use water canons and ramming. They use thembecause they said no foreign boats 3miles around the drill rig but you didn'tlisten...they did this for reasons...if you think they are wrong do the same.
使用水炮和撞击。他们使用了这些手段，因为他们说外国船只不能在平台3英里以内，但是你们不听…他们做这些是有理由的…如果你们认为他们错了，那就采取同样的措施。 BoQ77安南We warning, .... they ignore and activelyramming us and use water canon ...
we keep warning ...
exchange high officials calls, send theofficial letters of protest
We recorded the evidences about their illegalactivities in Vietnam EEZ
and organize the international pressconference in Hanoi to announce the recorded evidence about their aggression.
We send warnings again ... and exchange highofficials call.
If they ignore and keep their way unchanged.We would use the harder treatment to them
eazzy法国We'll have to wait then...
What is happening right now ? There isn't anynews.
OCguy美帝Strange thing for a French person to say re:Vietnam. 法国人说对越南说“反应”真是个怪事。
BoQ77安南Let me update to you.
After the press conference, the report ofoffshore force of Vietnam ...showing that China has less aggressive acts, noair activity.
Last night, it's calm down ...
to be ... continued
Nexus阿三I feel sorry for Vietnam.
China can not fight with Japan because Japanis too strong,
China can not fight with India because Indiahave Nukes and ICBMs surplus India is strong and in future India will be TrueSuper power with USA, China and Russia.
so they turned to south to Bully Vietnambecause Vietnam is week and Poor. but they don't want to attack on Vietnam cozof Army of Vietnam.
The only reason is that India is not in theSCS.
China engages Japan on daily basis,challenging its sovereignty over Diaoyu Dai in the ECS.
Maritime borders are more important for amaritime power. China has given up territorial-power mentality; that's the reasonfor greater engagement in the sea.
Land borders can wait since they arestrategically less important. 傻逼逻辑。唯一的原因是印度不在南海。中国每天都在和日本斗争，挑战日本在东海上对钓鱼岛的管辖。 海上边界对于海权很重要。中国已经抛弃了陆权思维；这就是海上争端更多的原因。陆地边界可以等等，因为已经是次要的了。
BoQ77安南No. the international court would teach Chinaagain with proper usage of UNCLOS 1982 for EEZ 不，国际法庭会再次告诉中国1982年联合国海洋公约是如何规定专属经济区的。
You should ask Saddam and Gaddafi 's opinionabout UN>
eazzy法国A pinoy boat was also found carrying turtles at the same time, can youaccept it ? Like you accept Pinoy presence in what you call your EEZ ?
It's just water, not bullets. Calm down...atleast no one died...hopefully that will not change.
BoQ77安南We support the Phillipines catch
BoQ77安南We support arrest thiefs and environmentkiller, no matter what nationality they are
Kyle Sun天朝BTW , Our fishing boat catch turtle ?
That's new for me .
Does any Chinese member here know about this ?I never hear about we catch turtle , never see turtle in market.
If all China can do is ramming, thats very encouraging.They didn't shoot because they cannot afford to go to war. This is nothing newbetween the U.S. and the Soviet Union at the time when ships rammed into eachother. Consequences would be great. China knows that too.
Best to do is keep harassing and not let themget into position from drilling.
Kyle Sun天朝 US is classic hypocrite , you deservecriticism.
And Yes, a few hundred Marines really freak meout, they are the Great WORLD POLICE. 美国是典型的伪君子，你们应该受到谴责。是的，几百个陆战队员吓死我了，他们是最大的世界警察。
sweetgrape天朝But, seems you vietnamese are masturbateyourselves too much and happily here. Can't wait for seeing it, hehe!
terranMarine天朝These Vietcongs always love to say Chinakissed America's butt and betrayed USSR. Now look at them, are they suckingSam's dick for help?
Edison Chen天朝Crying will help you win sympathy, but it cannever save your inferior complex.
cirr天朝 A bunch of crying babies。
Go and ask the Butcher of Vietnam for help ifyou have any dignity.
Rechoice安南 China Deng Xiaoping went to Washington to getpermission from Carter brfore attack on Viets 1979.
BoQ77安南Vietnam is in position to send our shipsthere to compete Chinese invading ships...
similar to what Japan did to China in Senkaku...
Smaller ship doesn't means no resistance toChina illegal operation ...
cirr天朝 That's your personal and lame explanation ofhistory。
And if you are right，you people have one more reason to hate the Americans tothe bones。
BoQ77安南US Coast Guards is the best of the kind ...
US funded VCG for learning English tocooperate with USA, Australia ... too a weak coast guard could seize China boats... because they get the backup of Americans
美国海岸警卫队最好了 他们还花钱教越南海岸警卫队英语呢，来和美国和澳大利亚合作。 弱小的海岸警卫队也可以抓住中国船，因为有美国支持。
Huan美帝I think you are grossly underestimatingChina's navy and its size.
Sam1980澳大利亚 “If you know the enemy and know yourself, youneed not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not theenemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you knowneither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Sun Tzu
I looked very hard, but I couldn't findanything about underestimating your enemy. For a so-called strategist, you lackinsight.
KirovAirship天朝---澳门They are not "considering other's EEZ astheir 'Chinese water'", they are having "a different size ofEEZ". If you know what I mean.
The United Nations asks for respect for allnations' sovereignty yet also tell you that human rights should be oversovereignty. Isn't it a contradiction? Well that's how the game run.
zDragonFlyz安南In fact China's claim is based on Nothing.Their so-called 'historical proofs' are some chinese fishermen came there andthey named the islands. There is no action related to claiming sovereignty atthe authorities level from them.
KirovAirship天朝---澳门Vietnam also claims "Philippines"water and islands based on Vietnamese 'historical proofs' from Vietnamesefishermen, you both even have conflicted with each other over this issue and I rememberthat you even took at least one of "their" island and killed some oftheir men.
eazzy法国The Philippines looks like a partly submergedUK
madokafc印尼Status quo is the best solution for all ofus, just let arbitrary council to take control over hundreds islands and isletin South China sea and every country hold off all of their claims over SouthChina Sea.
BTW, It is disgusting to see China claims overall of South China Sea, even they include Natuna and surrounding area in theirclaims.
Just like in the picture of their new passportissue