Zhao: oh, Do you know Mandela passed away 3 days ago? I think he was proud that he was black
before 1840 year (England invade China). Chinese think China is the strongest in the world, so we look down upon foreigner.
Zhao: but after 1840,we know ,china is a poor country. we not have power that we can look down upon foreigner
Me: In the present world we are all equal
Zhao: Do you know between Chinese and Japanese the biggest difference?
Me: what is that?
Zhao: Japanese want be a powerhouse (like america).chinese want replace America. Perhaps its reason is that the East country said China is a ambition country
Me: Very good. You are very intelligent for your age Zhao
Zhao: Oh! and I have a question .Last week ,my grandfather said many about Battle of Walong. in your mind ,what happened in 1962?
Reminiscences [ I had to look for Walong before replying to him. I myself don’t know what exactly happened except that a unnecessary war was thrust upon us by over ambitious Mao. However, I only know the Indian side of the story- the one which was told to us by our governement. I was a ten years old child then. Children of that age identify themselves with the soldiers as their heroes and the war games excite them. The rivals obviously are considered as evil. Only we had a radio in the cluster of apartments in a huge lodge named Constance Lodge in Shimla where we lived. I spent all my childhood there. My father and all the neighbourhood ‘uncles’ would gather around the Radio for 8 O’clock morning news. The news would bring the stories of valour by ill equipped soldiers and of retreat of Indian army from one post after another, fighting bravely. I remember clearly the gloom setting on their worried faces. Since our house was near the police lines and Shimla was probably reachable by the invading planes, trenches were dug out by the policemen with instructions for us to hide in those during air raids. Those trenches and all the war news gave us exciting war games. I don’t remember having heard the sirens announcing raids but I remember seeing tracer fire, tracking raiding aeroplanes. I also remember that some Indian diplomats was beaten, his face was blackened and a garland of shoes was put in his neck in Peking. In those days, we the children developed a strong hatred for the Chinese. A lot of Tibeteans who fled Tibet came to settle in Shimla too. Many of them still live there. Before that all I knew about the Chinese was that most of them were Opium addicts “afeemchi” is the Hindi word for opium addicts. There was one shop at 'Scandal Point' of a Chinese shoe maker in Shimla. “Lee” or such was the name. 'Haqeeqat' meaning the truth was a movie based on the Chinese invasion and I remember having shed buckets of tears seeing the movie. In those days we were allowed to see only good cinemas and this was one that we were taken to. A lot of patriotic songs were written in those days for inspiring the people who were proud and patriotic then. A song sung by Lata Mangeshkar and written by Indivar “ Ai mere watan ke logo” ( O The people of my country) told the excruciating details of the war and brought the whole nation to tears. The song till today is probably the most heard song in India.]
We would tease the Tibetans ( whom we called Lama Sippi), singing a four line teaser which they didn’t understand. It went like this-
Lama sippi khatta kha- O lama sippi take/eat sour thing
Khatta kha ke paani pi- Drink water after eating sour thing
Pani pee ke mar ja- And then die after drinking water.
They would come around begging sometimes or selling coloured bead strings or “Hing” (Asafoetida). They wore strange clothes, put beads in their hair and had prayer bead string or rotating drum ( we called it Tibeti ( of the Tibetans)Damru (A small handheld drum seen in Lord Shiva’s hand)
Me: Let us know what your grand father said about the war
Zhao: He said, Nehru had many the wrong decision.
Me: What I know is the Indian side of the story and to tell you frankly this is the main reason why the Indians hate the Chinese
Me: What were those wrong decisions?
Me: So he approached Mao and Zhao En Lai. The agreement was signed but the Chinese invaded India and set up their posts inside Indian territory.
Zhao: its zhou en lai
Me: India asked them to remove the posts. The fight ensued. India was not at all prepared. We did not have a well equipped and big army, no preparation, no roads. Our soldiers were not trained to fight at those high altitudes
Because Nehru believed in peace and he believed in the sanctity of his peace formula which he had got signed from chairman Mao.
Zhao: But China also was a poor country
in 1962, India's GDP was higher than that of China
and I know Indian AIR FORCE was not scrambled. [ Don't know what he meant by this]
Me: Yes, China was a poor country and your Chairman Mao wanted to show to the people the success of communism, so he wanted to gain support of people. So he attacked India. We lost a lot of territory and too many soldiers lost their lives. The Indians have not forgotten that treachery. That is why most of the Indians hate and do not trust China
Zhao: trest me ,you don’t wanna know what China said.
Me: Your government may not acknowledge the truth and you are like my grand son and because you have asked this today, so I have told you about it. I was a ten years old child when India was attacked and the memories are still fresh in my mind
Zhao: all the people remains on high alert?
Me: What you have heard from the China radio is not the truth because China radio and television even today is controlled by the government
Zhao: but why not India fight to the death with China?
but maybe India radio said lie. I don’t know. We are not Mao or Nehru.
India hate China , China hate Japan ,
what the end of hate chain ?
This poignant movie made after the war shook the whole nation and this song http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154565/
even today moves every Indian to tears.
I am going down for dinner. We will talk tomorrow. Good Night
Zhao: I wish our talk in this night,cant influence our friendship
( The child is worried that he may not have hurt me by bringing the painful memories back to me)
Me: The only way to end the hate chain is to stop talking about the past. Indians can do it. We have done it. After thousands of years of hate by the Islamist invaders and the atrocities by the British, we have put the past behind and moved on. Our religion teaches us to forget and forgive.
It is strange, Chinese and Indians have a big difference about the 1962 war, Chinese think Indians are too ambitious, the Indian invade China and occupy a large piece of Chinese territory. China had to fight back, Mao even willing to give some China territory to India, but after India get our territory, India put forward and ask for more requirements, and rejected China's negotiation request. The 1962 war is called War of self-defense. I do not know which side is right, but it is true that China and India have the opposite point of view...
The wars occur because of difference of opinions and I am sure the politicians keep the people in the dark. No country will accept it's fault in starting the war, so talking about whose fault it was will be akin to starting another fight . All that I can say is that in history you cannot find any instances of aggression by India. Ever since our existence we have been invaded and our territory has been snatched from us. Nehru was a diffident man and he was pushing his five point peace plan for peaceful existence with the neighbours. India did not have any reason to start war with China when we didn't even have roads in the Himalayas and our soldiers were so ill equipped that they went to war wearing canvas shoes. If Nehru was perpetrating war, he would have at least equipped his army
Hahaha Xiyangyang- Fifty years after the war, we are getting to know the Chinese part of the story and that too because of free exchange of information through internet and because chance has made us friends So let's accept the things as they are. These border issues are really complicated. I don't know what was MacMohn's interest in drawing a line on the map and what were the basis of drawing such lines. The disputed terrain is just a mass of frozen rocks. I think at least such places in the world should be marked as free zones as they can be of interest only to the mountaineers and explorers
哈哈，战后50年，我们了解了中国方面的说法，这要归功于互联网上的自由交流，我们有幸成为了朋友 过去的事情就让它过去吧。边界问题非常复杂。我不知道麦克马洪怎么会有兴趣在地图上划一条线，他划线的根据是什么。存争议的领土只是些荒凉地区，应该将其设为自由进入的地区，毕竟只有登山家和探险家才会对这些地方有兴趣 </SPAN>
when I see the word Shimla and 1962, I know you put your hand into a hornet nest. just wait and see what will happen.
I had written a long reply to you but sadly I lost it before I could save it. I am enjoying the comments. After reading so many of those from my learned readers, I think I am not fit to reply to their comments. Their passionate replies give me a feel of how touchy the Chinese are about this war which I am sure most of the Indians don't even remember. I am sure if you put any questions to the Indian children on this war in their exam, they will fail. Before this I never heard the views of any Chinese on this war. War happen because of a sequence of events, belligerence and rather inability of the politicians to resolve the issue through a sensible dialogue and as a result so many precious lives are lost.
I studied 1962 war in sparetime since 2008.Both China and Iindia told its own stories.Having read and analysed many materials from various sources,I agree with chinese government much more on 1962 war,though I know that chinese government has a lower credibility in genernal.
It is naive to take it for granted that Indian government is more truthful on every subject.
Hello Panda Warrior- You seem to have read a lot on the war that happened more than fifty years ago. In general the credibility of any government is low because they only tell half truths i.e. they tell only that part of the story that suits their interests. No government in it's right mind will say anything inimical to it's interests. All that I would like to say is that it was stupid of both the neighbours to go in to a war which proved nothing, caused huge loss of lives on both sides. I hope now sanity prevails and we can work together for mutually benefiting projects.
Eventually people specially responsible citizens should see that war does not bring anything more than tears, destruction and hatred. People should let go of past and start a new life everyday. Thinking about past creates blockages.
So best is that we should appreciate and admire the sentiment of a 10 year old child for you sailor uncle which is nothing but honest admiration.
How could I miss to reply to such a sensible comment. I was wondering why the count of my comments is 'odd', It should be even if I had replied to all the comments, Now that mystery is solved
you have talked about very controversial topics in very
nice way and that has given a glimpse of the psyche of a Chinese boy.
Thanks Sampath Ji- There was no point of raking up old issues and I had to tell that child how I felt and all what I knew about the unfortunate war.