美网友:中国海军赶超美国海军只是时间问题了


美网友:中国海军赶超美国海军只是时间问题了

在2012年《外交官》一篇文章上,安德鲁·埃里克森和盖柏·柯林斯宣称“中国这些年来正寻求发展其蓝水海军,但其实质上更注重‘区域性’而非‘全球性’”,并且中国也不会试图挑战美国海军霸权。然而,分析一下中国大洋角色(含义见下文),就会发现以下两个中国人民解放军海军蓝水现代化的长期主要目标:一是能够在东亚之外频繁部署;二是能够在公海上挑战美国海军霸权。


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John(January 9, 2014 at 10:31)Rough summary of this article: Assessing naval power by counting ships is boring and empirical. There’s something called Maritime Identity which is much more exciting. America’s is: “We have a big navy and we use it for good.” China’s is: “We would like a big navy to thwart America and we’re doing our nefarious best to get one. We might have one as early as next week, so watch out.” I know this because I read the People’s Daily and I’ve been in China a whole year.

这篇文章简言之就是:“通过计算舰船数来评估海军力量是及乏味而又经验主义的,而所谓的大洋角色就有趣多了。美国人的大洋角色是‘我们有大海军,我们用它来保护美好事物’。中国人的大洋角色是‘我们想要大海军,为此不惜穷兵黩武。也许下一周我们就有了,给我当心点’。我知道这些,因为我读了《人民日报》,还在中国住了一整年。”

Anon(January 9, 2014 at 12:23)(回楼上)I think the author meant to show how maritime identity is better than “relying on solely armaments” as the unit of analysis. He didn’t totally define China’s maritime identity, I think he/she just brought up its specific aspects relevant to the term blue water navy.

我认为作者的意思是大洋角色作为一个分析单位比“单独以军备为分析单位”更好。他并没有完全定义中国的大洋角色,我认为他/她只说了与蓝水海军有关的具体部分。

I don’t care if he/she was only there for a year. I think The article has many good points

我不关心他/她是否只住了一年。我觉得这篇文章有许多好的观点。

ScottLoar(January 9, 2014 at 13:35)

China will not reveal its defense budget or spending but its military intentions are clear: China intends to develop a military that supports state diplomacy, protects Chinese assets no matter where they may be, and is able to contend with any other power.

中国不会披露其防务预算或花费,但其军事目的很清楚:中国想要发展一支军队来支持其国家外交、保护无论处于何地的中国资产以及能够与其他国家相抗衡。

Yes, it’s that simple.

是的,就是这么简单。

Socrates(January 9, 2014 at 19:35)(回楼上)Yes, My Man,

是的,兄弟,

The whole world seemed to misunderstand Xi’s recent declaration regarding China Dream.

整个世界似乎都误解了习主席最近关于中国梦的宣言。

China Dream that Xi meaned is NOT the prosperity , harmony, happiness for Chinese populace,But China Dream he meaned is : China shall displace the US and becomes the world hegemony because that ambition embedded in Chinese rulers minds more than 2,000 years .And every new regime takes power in China also repeats the same declaration .

习主席提的中国梦不意味着中国人民的前途、和谐和幸福,而是:中国将取代美国,寻求世界霸权,这是由于超过2000年的根深蒂固的中国统治者思想所造成的。每个取得中国权力的新政权都会发出与之相同的宣言。

As far as I’m concerned, the most recent rulers who have repeated that declaration are Sun Yat Sen, Chiang Kai Shek, Mao Ze Dong and now Xi Jingping.

据我所知,发出这类宣言的最近的统治者有孙逸仙、蒋介石、毛泽东以及现在的Xi。

Just one month after he was assigned as the first President of Republic of China, Sun Yat Sen has proudly declared that US has became superpower by chance rather than its real potential and its dominance is temporary only. And only China, with its vast territory , immense natural ,human resources plus its 5,000 civilisation foundation.Therefore, it deserves to be the long term world hegemony.

孙逸仙在就任民国第一任总统后,仅过了一个月,就骄傲地宣称美国因偶然而不是其真实潜力而成为超级大国,并且它的霸权仅是暂时的。而只有中国才是地大物博、人口众多,有其5000年文化基础。因此,中国应当长期主宰世界霸权。

Let look at China presence in Artic , Antartica ,every corner of the world and even on the moon.The you will realize that such assumption is really moronic.

看看中国在南北极、世界的每个角落甚至是月球上的表现,你就知道那种假设真是太弱智了。

Bobby Nguyen(January 9, 2014 at 02:01)China wants a blue water navy so it can steal oil and gas-rich maritime territories from Vietnam, the Philippines and Japan. Its navy is not for protecting ocean trade links, but for capturing them. I would think that, because of their history, the Chinese would be more benevolent to their smaller neighbors. Look again: China is now an imperialist pig.

中国想要蓝水海军是为了从越南、菲律宾以及日本窃走石油和富含天然气的领海。中国的海军不是为了保护远洋贸易线,而是为了控制它们。基于他们的历史,我认为中国人或许对他们周围的小邻居更友善。再来瞧瞧,如今中国已成了令人讨厌的帝国主义者。

Put thefts into cage(January 9, 2014 at 05:57)(回楼上)Vietnam, the Philippines and Japan are petty thefts; they have been benefitting a lot on the differences and misunderstandings between USA and China. One of the purposes of “new type of great-power relationship” is to stop these thefts from enjoying stolen goods at the expenses of the relationship between great-powers.

越南、菲律宾还有日本都是小偷;他们通过中美之间的分歧误解来渔翁得利。“新型大国关系”的目标之一就是要制止这帮小偷借由大国间的摩擦来享受渔翁之利。

Big stick is needed to disperse these petty thefts from encroached lands and properties and enforce them to obey law and order.

需要大棒来将这帮小偷从已经侵占的土地和财产上赶出来,并且迫使他们遵法守序。

Kris R.(January 9, 2014 at 09:06)(回楼上)Petty thefts. Did you mean Vietnam, Philippines, and Japan are victims of petty thefts? Or are you calling these countries thieves, like in ‘petty thieves’. Who stole what? Great powers? Do you mean that US and China are great powers ready to invade other countries just because of thievery accusations? Are you in a cage right now? You seem to be cooped in the cage of ignorance and misinformation.

小偷小摸。你的意思是越南、菲律宾还有日本是小偷小摸的受害者吧?还是或者说你觉得这些国家才是小偷。谁偷了东西?超级大国?你想说美中作为一个超级大国仅因盗窃指控便要入侵他国?难道你现在还如此闭塞?你貌似处于无知和误解的境地。

Put thefts into cage(January 10, 2014 at 00:21)(回楼上)Kris, for your information, Vietnam and Philippines stole Chinese islands in the South China Sea, Japan stole Chinese islands as well as Ryukyu kingdom in the East China Sea in case you have been fed with misinformation from the Western black information network which includes media, education system, think tanks, government agencies, etc. for their global enslavement conquest.

Kris,未免你被西方舆论所误导,看一下资料吧,越南、菲律宾在中国南海偷占中国领土,日本和琉球从中国东海偷占中国领土。西方为了奴役征服全球,而由媒体、教育体系、智囊团、政府机构等等所组成的网络舆论抹黑阵地一直在向你传递错误消息。

AG(January 8, 2014 at 15:08)This article is terrible, it makes no sense.

这篇文章很糟糕,一点道理都没有。

Is the retrorocket about China different in the US?

中国的火箭和美国有区别吗?

Some of the quotes reported from Chinese newspapers are sentences that the Chinese journalist quotes himself from an American source….please be serious….

这些引用自中国新闻的文段其实是中国记者引用自美国媒体的......请严谨一点吧......

tom929(January 8, 2014 at 12:35)people keep yapping about rise of china and decline of US. just wait and the future will unfold itself . no reason to waste time making prediction

中国的崛起和美国的衰退只是时间问题,人们老是对其喋喋不休。未来有其自有的发展趋势。搞这些预测简直就是毫无理由的浪费时间。


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