NATO says Karzai failure to sign pact would end Afghan mission
By Adrian Croft
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - NATO would have to pull all its troops out of Afghanistan by the end of 2014 if Afghan President Hamid Karzai does not sign a security pact with the United States, alliance chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen said on Monday.
An assembly of Afghan elders, the Loya Jirga, last month endorsed the security pact intended to shape the U.S. military presence in the country beyond 2014. But Karzai said he might not sign it until after elections in April.
The NATO-led force currently has around 80,000 troops in Afghanistan, the majority American. NATO is winding down combat operations, handing responsibility for fighting Taliban insurgents to the Afghans, before most foreign combat forces pull out by the end of 2014.
布鲁塞尔(路透社)-联盟首席拉斯穆森(Anders Fogh Rasmussen)周一表示，在2014年底如果阿富汗总统哈米德·卡尔扎伊没有与美国签订安全协议北约将不得不把它所有的军队撤出阿富汗。
Without the U.S.-Afghan accord, NATO will not be able to finalize its own agreement with the Afghan government setting the terms for troops from other NATO and partner nations to remain in Afghanistan after 2014, Rasmussen told reporters.
"In that case, we don't have a proper legal framework in place and it will not be possible to deploy a 'train, advise, assist' mission to Afghanistan after 2014," Rasmussen said.
He voiced hope Karzai would follow the advice of the Loya Jirga and sign.
The agreement that NATO needs with Afghanistan is modeled on the proposed U.S. pact and, in any case, Washington is expected to supply most of the forces for the post-2014 NATO mission, so without the United States, the mission is unlikely to be feasible.
Let's just leave already, and stop the flow of aid money...The money that doesn't get funneled into the hands of corrupt leaders and warlords goes to waste anyway. I've been in the area and seen what happens. We build nice facilities for them, which they either can't afford to maintain or don't care about. We pour money and effort into giving them farming equipment and teaching different farming techniques, but the truth is, when we pull out they will grow whatever the Taliban tell them to grow. People who support our presence there tend to forget how it worked out for the Russians in the 80's...All in all, it's time to let the Afghani people run their own country; they did fine for thousands of years without our 'help' and there's too much of a cultural divide anyway.
With regards to geopolitical reasons to leaving a force in Central Asia... the fact is that this Muslim hellhole is not worth it... the trillion $$ rare earth materials have been signed off to the Chinese and like usual we end up paying for the safe passage of these materials to China. Cut and leave our losses here because there will no more gains from this country. Let it rot and cause trouble for the neighbors Pakistan and Iran and for the powers Russia and China. They should pay for the mess and not us.
I hope that fool Karzai doesn`t sign it and not another single one of our soldiers has to spend another single day in that place. I spent a tour in the sand box there and, in my own mind, it was a waste of time and resources. These people are stuck in the stone age and don`t want democracy. Leave `em to the Taliban, cause once we leave you can rest assured that`s who will be in positions of power by Karzai`s own hand.
4 million, 8 billion. Why in the hell are we giving them money and our Government can not pass a balanced budget? It is the people's money of the USA, not the President's money and he should be asking the people if we want to fund some other government's needs. We need here in America so quit selling us out to these other countries that don't help us and here we are again giving them money for what? Mr. President??????? Are you on our side or theirs?
400万美元，80亿美元,为什么我们给他们钱,难道政府不能制定一项平衡预算吗?这是美国人民的钱,不是总统的钱。他应该问我们公民是否愿意资助政府其它的需要（指给阿富汗提供美刀）。我们需要在美国，所以不要把我们出卖给这些不会帮助我们的国家。我们一直给他们钱到底是为了什么?总统先生? ? ? ? ? ? ?你是站在我们这边还是站在他们那边?
David M Payne：
do you even know how wars are conducted? As a 100% disabled Vietnam vet I have seen war up close and personal, and war is barely organized Chaos. I think we should pull out of Afghanistan, but not for the reasons you posted. A religious war can and has gone on for centuries. People in the US don't have the stomach for a 100 year war, but that is no problem for Islamic terrorists, as they think God is on their side. As all sides pray to the same God (Allah is Arabic for God), and they have the same proof that he is real as the rest of the Abrahamic God believers. That is no proof that god even exists. So until he shows up in person, he is a myth to me and a growing number of people world wide.
there is absolutely NO reason for staying in that cra* country. Karazi is nothing but a #$%$ in the first place and he will hand over the country to the Taliban once we are gone. The entire United States voting population is against further involvement in this dumba** place. The problem with Washington is they only listen to themselves and never to the people of this nation anymore. The midterm elections they will find out what not paying attention to the people who pay you means. Incumbents should beware, the voters are coming after you.
绝对没有理由呆在cra *国家。卡尔扎伊只不过是坐在第一把交椅上的 #$%$（可能是傀儡的意思，看来美国也限制言论啊），我们一旦离开他会在第一时间将国家交给塔利班。整个美国投票反对进一步参与这个狗娘养的地方。华盛顿的问题是他们只听自己的，并且再也不听从这个国家的公民的意见了。中期选举时他们会明白应该多关注给他们钱的公民。现任者小心吧,选民们正在你们身后。
Not one more penny to the thieves and war profiteers.
Why are we continuing to support a government that is so openly hostile to us? If he can't secure his country without the U.S. backing him, he probably shouldn't be president.
how stupid is people this government spent billions on this country & put people in this country out of work that was all our money not the government money these politicians think our money is theirs both republicans & democrats the people of this country need to wake up & vote both party's out of office before they break this country by them having us in these wares & then not get nothing out of them but lining their own pockets with our money & then we suffer while they in joy their life we cant feed our kids pay our bills & buy our medications or our kids vote these #$%$ out of office
a few things are going to happen here I see the writing on the wall , I spent 3 yrs as a contractor first he is coming to a end , he will do anything to prolong his departure, second his lobbing to Pakistan to get Taliban leaders released is proof what he is doing is positioning himself so after leaving he can operate like his brother with out Taliban interference, he is the biggest piece of sht , and I believe he has been giving Taliban information all along we need to get out stop funding and let this country go back , then nuke them
No Signature by end of year, We should be getting ready to leave. Eliminate funding, pull all troops out.
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