[转载]:土耳其等国网友讨论:中国红旗-9导弹赢土耳其30亿美元订单

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土耳其网友在巴基斯坦军坛的土耳其版块发帖讨论:中国红旗-9导弹赢土耳其30亿美元订单。在经历了长久的等待和考察后,土耳其最终顶住多个西方国家的压力和警告,选择购买中国精密机械进出口公司(CPMIEC)参与投标的红旗-9型远程防空导弹,放弃了美国雷神公司和洛克希德•马丁公司联合提出的“爱国者”防空导弹系统、俄罗斯国防出口公司推销的S-300防空导弹以及意大利-法国联合研制的SAMP-T紫苑-30防空导弹系统。项目总价将高达30亿美元。译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com外文标题: Turkey's acquisition of HQ-9 Air Defense System | Updates & Discussion外文地址:http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey-defence/280068-turkeys-acquisition-hq-9-air-defense-system-updates-discussion.html

土耳其网友在巴基斯坦军坛的土耳其版块发帖讨论:中国红旗-9导弹赢土耳其30亿美元订单。以下是土耳其等国网友的评论:

Targon(土耳其)What they offered was better then what our "so called" friends and allies were offering, logical result.他们的投标比我们所谓盟友的投标更诱人,这是理所当然的结果。

Aeronaut(巴基斯坦)Great choice - HQ-9 with TOT will most definitely benefit Turkey in many ways.选得好。红旗9最能让土耳其在许多方面受益。

flamer84I never thought things would pan out this way...A NATO country entrusts its main AA system to China...从未想过会是这样的结果.....一个北约国家居然把主要防空系统委托给中国......

T-123456(土耳其)I would like to see the US or NATO comment on this decision.想听听美国和北约对(土耳其的)这一决定是如何置评的。

Neptune(土耳其)Yeah that's right. It's breaking news in Turkey now, US&NATO is probly shocked about the decision. I'd like to hear Chinese members opinions over that, as well as detailed specs about the system, and the news from Chinese sources. That'd be great if I get them.没错,这个在土耳其成为了爆炸性新闻,美国和北约可能对这一决定感到震惊。我想听听中国人的看法,该系统的具体参数以及来自中国的新闻。有的话,那就太棒了。

Pak47(巴基斯坦)Congrats, having multiple sources for weapons is always a +Also shows how much Chinese weapon systems have matured over the last decade.祝贺,武器来源多样化总是好事。此外,这也表明中国武器系统过去十年里已经趋于成熟了。

madmusti(土耳其)FD-2000 Export HQ-97-24km against cruise missiles7-50km against air-launched ground attack missiles7-125km against aircrafts7-25km against PGMs and tactical ballistic missilesAnd we will get the Tech ,so we will have ability to make our own system in 15-30 Years.红旗9导弹出口版FD-2000能够有效拦截:24公里内的巡航导弹;50公里内的空射导弹;125公里内的飞机;25公里内的精密制导武器和战术弹道飞弹。而且,我们还将获得技术,15-30年后我们将拥有制造这一系统的能力。

Czar786(印度)So turkey will be the second country after Pakistan to Acquired this system .Bad A$$ looking HQ-9 --->也就是说,土耳其成为了继巴基斯坦之后第二个获得这一系统的国家。红旗9导弹够难看的

Hafizzz(巴基斯坦)Yet better than anything India has !总比印度的更好看!

Oublious(土耳其)i hope one thing. this is not bad china production...我有一个希望,即这不会是粗制滥造的“中国产”......

Ankit_Pujari(印度)A good move here. Win-win for all parties involved.The Chinese score an export order, showing their hardware good enough to make even a NATO country acquire themThe NATO will have access to a contemporary Chinese weapon system, helping them evaluate it & develop newer counter-measures, if need be.干得好,对有关各方都是共赢的。中国人获得了出口订单,表明其装备足够好,连北约国家也过来买。北约将能接触到中国的现代武器系统,对其进行评估,必要时发展新的反制措施。

Hafizzz(巴基斯坦)Yes NATO also did a REVERSE ENGINEERING on S-300 (Greece has the S-300).的确,北约也对S-300进行了逆向工程研究(希腊有S-300防空导弹)。Neptune(土耳其)I wish we would had chose either Aster-30 or S-300/400. . . . .其实我希望我们选择的是欧洲的紫苑-30或俄罗斯的S-300/400

Neptune(土耳其)What I worry about is, the version that the Chinese folks will give us won't be much effective as they are not stupit enough to give a system like HQ-9 with ToT to a country in Turkey's position...我担心的是,中国人出口给我们的版本性能不够强大,因为他们不会傻到在转让技术的前提下把红旗9防空导弹出口给土耳其......

mafiya(巴基斯坦)Then why turkey chose HQ-9? What was not present in american or european systems that turkey chose HQ-9?为什么土耳其要选择红旗9?美国或欧洲的系统到底缺了什么,使得土耳其要去选择红旗9?

armchairPrivate(加拿大)China's offer is pretty generous - TOT and co-production.What more can one ask for?中国更大方,提供技术转让和联合生产。你还能要求什么?

hacksquat(土耳其)We already rely on US 100% for our airforce. Having an independant AA network was probably one of the main drivers. And I believe the capabilities of the system were secondary to the generous tech transfer we have been offered (along with 25% cheaper price tag).我们的空军已经完全依赖美国,拥有独立的防空网络也许是主要推动力之一。我相信系统的能力是其次,最重要的是中国慷慨的技术转让,外加价格便宜25%

BATMAN (巴基斯坦)What are the basis of your suspicions?你怀疑的依据是什么?

Neptune(土耳其)NATO, defence&political ties with US. And China won't give important parts of ToT that will be signed. Everybody knows why.土耳其是北约成员国,以及同美国保持着防卫和政治关系。中国不会转让关键部件的技术的。大家都知道原因。

ELTurco(土耳其)Well, i guess you simply dont know, ofcourse we will get ToT..你有所不知,我们当然会获得技术转让。

Informant(巴基斯坦)Oh this is going to peeve a few nations. Congrats!哦,有些国家要气急败坏了。祝贺!

BigDaddyWatch(中国)To tell you the truth i'm not comfortable with China sharing some of its most advanced SAM technology with a NATO country.说实话,不喜欢中国把最先进的防空导弹技术拿去和一个北约国家分享。

Sinan(土耳其)You have point but China sold his weaponry to a high-end user, Nato member country. This alone proves how much China improved in Defence Industries in the International arena.你说得有道理,但是中国把武器卖给了北约成员国这么一个高端用户。仅此就能在国际舞台上证明中国国防工业进步有多大。

luciferdd(中国)You guys think to much...the most advanced technology will never be sold你小子想太多了.....最先进的技术肯定不会卖的。armchairPrivate(加拿大)China most likely have better tech in store.中国很可能有更好的技术储备了。


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