菲称中国对其开火将撤:看看菲佣愤青的反应

'Chinese fishers destroying shoal'


By Evelyn Macairan (The Philippine Star) Updated May 05, 2012 12:00 AM


“中国渔民正在毁掉黄岩岛”


翻译:南田翡翠


原文大意(转自环球网):


环球网记者仲伟东报道,黄岩岛对峙事件持续将近一个月时间,菲律宾海岸警卫队司令埃德蒙陈5月4日称,菲方一直遵守约定,而且不会挑衅中国船只。他同时声称,菲有大量证据证明中国渔船在黄岩岛海域“非法捕鱼”,他呼吁菲渔民到该海域捕鱼,以便帮助菲律宾宣示主权。


据《菲律宾星报》5月5日消息,埃德蒙陈4日保证称菲律宾将继续遵守约定,“我们不会挑衅他们(中国船只),针对他们任何的骚扰和欺凌,我们都不会予以回应。我们将留在该海域。如果他们试图通过撞船的方式骚扰我们,我们将会回避,我们只会采取回避措施。如果发生最糟糕的情况,如果他们向我们开火……我们将不得不撤离。我们会离开,评估状况然后再返回去”。


为了印证这种表述,埃德蒙陈还声称,菲律宾飞机上周飞抵黄岩岛海域拍摄中国渔民“非法捕鱼”的图片和视频时,他甚至命令菲律宾飞机不要直接飞抵中国船只上空。


与此同时,埃德蒙陈呼吁黄岩岛附近的菲律宾前往该海域帮助强化菲律宾对该地区的声索,并声称黄岩岛“是属于我们的”,因而菲律宾渔民“不需要害怕,那儿有一艘菲律宾海岸警卫队的舰船”。他还称,自对峙事件发生以来,该海域的菲渔民都被“吓跑了”,因为他们担心在对峙中被中方抓获。


评论翻译(时间顺序,从新到旧):


Juan Sipagh posted on May 05, 2012 12:48 PM


What the Chinese is doing right now is a daylight robbery and a brazen violation of the sovereign rights and resources of neighboring countries like the Philippines. What they are trying to prove is that they can do anything they want for the mistakenly beleive that they are rich and more powerful. Wrong my friends, there is one more powerful than you and that is God who owns everything in this world, God in the end will punish you for you are robbing what has been apportioned by God to the Philippines. Always remember that covetousness and greed is not of God but of the devil.


中国人现在是在明抢,不要脸地侵犯像菲律宾一样的邻国的主权和资源。他们现在是要证明自己可以做任何想做的事,因为他们错误地认为自己国家很富裕且更加强大。我的朋友,你们错了,世界上有比你们中国更加强大的存在,那就是上帝,上帝拥有世界上的一切事物,你们抢劫上帝赐予菲律宾的东西,最终会受到上帝的惩罚的!时刻牢记,贪婪是为上帝所不容的,那是恶魔的物质。


Ivanhoe_torres posted on May 05, 2012 12:08 PM


Quote:


lightcrusaderjr wrote:


The documented evidences of Chinese actuations at Panatag Shoal are compelling proof that China does not own it and that the world should know. What civilized country would allow the rape of the environment if she owns it? The logic of this is similar to what the wise King Solomon employed in deciding among two women who owns a child. He gave the child to the one who was willing to give him up, instead of to the one who was willing to have him cut up. We must keep faith in the sense of the world. History is replete with evidences that the abusers would not stand forever. China is heading to the road of its own perdition. She is not as strong as she thinks. She represses her own people. She could fall by her own weight. Just be a little patient and watch.


lightcrusaderjr:


That's very correct . Chinese are the destroyer of the earth resources , they are the no.1 pollutants of the mother earth , they produce milk that poisons over 300, 000 Babies in china alone and unaccounted victims around the world . They produces Toys with high content of Lead that victimized many children in the world .


The economic gains of China , principally because many countries made them that way , were used to produce Nuclears , Arms , and Weapons of Mass destruction for the destruction of the earth . They are the protector of Nations who wants to destroy the world with Nuclear like North korea and Russia . It is the World who created a Monster , the world should also be the one to destroy this monster .


Let's us not patronize their product as much as possible , inorder to slow them down economically .


引用“lightcrusaderjr:中国在黄岩岛的活动的书面证据强烈证明,中国并不拥有黄岩岛,关于这一点,全世界都应该知道。作为一个文明国家,如果她拥有这块领土,她怎么会容许对环境的破坏呢?这上面的逻辑和所罗门王判断两名妇女到底谁拥有那个孩子相似。他把那个小孩交给愿意放弃这小孩的妇女,而不是想要切碎这小孩的妇女。我应该对世界各国的觉察能力保持信心。历史表明,施虐者迟早会倒下的。中国正在走向灭亡。中国没有她自己认为的那么强大。中国**自己的人民。中国会自己倒下的。大家都耐心点,走着瞧吧!”


ightcrusaderjr,你说得非常正确。中国是地球资源的破坏者,中国人口世界第一,中国生产的牛奶仅在国内就毒害了超过30万的婴儿,世界上其它地方的受害婴儿更是数不清。中国生产的玩具含有大量的铅,毒害了世界上很多的小孩。


中国的经济成果很大程度上是因为其它国家造就的,而这些经济成果却被中国用来制造核武器装备和大规模杀伤性武器以摧毁地球。中国是那些想要用核武器摧毁地球的国家的保护者,比如朝鲜和俄罗斯。世界制造了这个怪物,世界也有义务去消灭这个怪物。


让我们一起来尽量抵制中国的产品吧,拖慢中国的经济增长。


karaangBugoy posted on May 05, 2012 12:04 PM


In a few wks time, the onslaught of the SW monsoon will be felt on this area. Then followed by continuous monstrosity of storms making survival on that isolated place almost close to nil. The assorted vsls which are now locked in conflicting claims will eventually vanish from the horizon until the start of Dcember where the SW winds will rest and the NE breeze takes over.This respite of an eye-to-eye confrontation will no longer be expected to escalate further in the absence of protagonists posturing macho roles in the dispute. So this would be the best time to review our strategies, while we still continue to hope that the big uncle will fulfill his promises of beefing up our defense capabilities.Let us cease from believing on that one-sided document called MDF with the US. we should be on our own small ways endavour to devise a new tack besides bringing our case to international adjudicatory body, and to deviate from a military standpoint in dealing with this issue by the ff proposition.


1. Organize our fisherman to assemble a flotilla of fishing boats to occupy and exploit the resources in that area when the prevailing weather will be calm and hospitable. This we can easily accomplish because to our proximity to the place.


2. Send our mapping agency(NAMRIA) survey ships to delineate and gather topographical and hydrographic data on that location. If we are to believe we own that place then we should have a first hand information and accounting of what the resources there look like, that is, the depth of water, hazards, coral formations and other subsea configuration which we could use to plan out development and utilization in the future.


These are just few example of things that we could subtly exercise to assert our sovereignty on that area, rather than just projecting poignant machoism which we can not realistically sustain.


西南季风潮将在几周后袭击这片海域。接着就是持续的强大风暴,黄岩岛这种孤立的地方不适合生存。在12月初西南季风潮西北季风停歇,东北微风到来之前,所有该争议区域的船只都将在地平线上消失。这对双方对峙的缓解仍然持续不了多久,除非其中一方表现出自己男子气概。因此,在我们仍然希望美国会帮助加强我国的防卫力量当下,这(季风潮的到来)是我们得重新审视自身战略的好时间。别再相信和美国达成的叫做MDF(译者:没查到是啥)的单边协议了。我们应该自己努力制定出一个战略,即到底是把此问题提交到国际组织裁决,还是放弃用通过军队来处理此事件。(译者:此句的ff proposition.也没查到)


1.在气候比较温和舒适的时候,把我们的渔船编队,组织渔民去占领和开发黄岩岛的资源。因为我们离黄岩岛很近,所以这点很容易实现。


2.把我国的国家地图与资源信息局的考察船送到那里去测绘和收集地形与水文数据。如果我们相信我国拥有黄岩岛,那么我们就应该拥有黄岩岛第一手的信息和资源详单,比如水深、障碍、珊瑚的构成以及其它一些可以为我们未来的开发与利用提供帮助的水下数据。


这只是一些我们可以用来维护我国在此区域主权的方法的例子,这比发扬男子气概这种我们目前无法做到的事靠谱多了。


DC_Talk8 posted on May 05, 2012 11:39 AM


The Philippine government is inutile! Why there is no action yet on the Philippine side when our own waters are being destroyed by these insects from China! My God I do not want to pay my taxes anymore.


菲律宾政府真没用!为什么中国的蝗虫破坏我们的水域时我国没有任何行动!天啊!我再也不想交税了!


rndizon posted on May 05, 2012 11:20 AM


Quote:


dmbanta wrote:


GREENPEACE, where are you?


dmbanta: NPA and MILF where are you?


引用“dmbanta:绿色和平组织,你在哪里?”


新人民军、摩洛***解放阵线,你们在哪里?


rndizon posted on May 05, 2012 11:18 AM


Quote:


lightcrusaderjr wrote:


The documented evidences of Chinese actuations at Panatag Shoal are compelling proof that China does not own it and that the world should know. What civilized country would allow the rape of the environment if she owns it? The logic of this is similar to what the wise King Solomon employed in deciding among two women who owns a child. He gave the child to the one who was willing to give him up, instead of to the one who was willing to have him cut up. We must keep faith in the sense of the world. History is replete with evidences that the abusers would not stand forever. China is heading to the road of its own perdition. She is not as strong as she thinks. She represses her own people. She could fall by her own weight. Just be a little patient and watch.


lightcrusaderjr: Chinese government has no respect for any human being. They are monster.


引用“lightcrusaderjr:中国在黄岩岛的活动的书面证据强烈证明,中国并不拥有黄岩岛,关于这一点,全世界都应该知道。作为一个文明国家,如果她拥有这块领土,她怎么会容许对环境的破坏呢?这上面的逻辑和所罗门王判断两名妇女到底谁拥有那个孩子相似。他把那个小孩交给愿意放弃这小孩的妇女,而不是想要切碎这小孩的妇女。我应该对世界各国的觉察能力保持信心。历史表明,施虐者迟早会倒下的。中国正在走向灭亡。中国没有她自己认为的那么强大。中国**自己的人民。中国会自己倒下的。大家都耐心点,走着瞧吧!”


lightcrusaderjr,中国ZF不尊重任何人。他们是怪物。


lightcrusaderjr posted on May 05, 2012 09:37 AM


The documented evidences of Chinese actuations at Panatag Shoal are compelling proof that China does not own it and that the world should know. What civilized country would allow the rape of the environment if she owns it? The logic of this is similar to what the wise King Solomon employed in deciding among two women who owns a child. He gave the child to the one who was willing to give him up, instead of to the one who was willing to have him cut up. We must keep faith in the sense of the world. History is replete with evidences that the abusers would not stand forever. China is heading to the road of its own perdition. She is not as strong as she thinks. She represses her own people. She could fall by her own weight. Just be a little patient and watch.


government has no respect for any human being. They are monster.


中国在黄岩岛的活动的书面证据强烈证明,黄岩岛不属于中国,全世界都应该知道这一点。作为一个文明国家,如果她拥有这块领土,她怎么会容许对环境的破坏呢?这上面的逻辑和所罗门王判断两名妇女到底谁拥有那个孩子相似。他把那个小孩交给愿意放弃这小孩的妇女,而不是想要切碎这小孩的妇女。我应该对世界各国的觉察能力保持信心。历史表明,施虐者迟早会倒下的。中国正在走向灭亡。中国没有她自己认为的那么强大。中国**自己的人民。中国会自己倒下的。大家都耐心点,走着瞧吧!


TheRealMagnitude-10 posted on May 05, 2012 09:22 AM


Then, go and destroy Boao Island off the Chinese coast and see how they like it!


For goodness sakes, Philippine military, what in hell is wrong with your defense mechanism to protect and defend the country? You are proving yourselves totally worthless not only to Filipino countrymen around the world, but to those in the Philippines too, not to mention the news stories saying the Philippine military does not know what to do, as it is just standing around waiting for Lt. Colonel Manny Pacquiao's next fight and seeing him prance around in-training in front of all his little groupies!


I wish the weather station taking the political weather right now would give us President Aquino's rating really is today.


Sissified government!


既然如此,我们就去毁掉中国的博鳌岛,看他们有何反应!


我%¥%,菲律宾军队,你们保卫自己国家的防卫机制到底出了什么问题?你们已经证明你们不管是对菲律宾在世界上的同胞还是在国内的人民都是无用的,更别提菲律宾军队不知道该做什么的故事了。(这个故事就是)菲律宾军队只会站着等待曼尼·帕奎奥(译者注:菲律宾拳王)的下一场比赛,看他在自己的粉丝们面前活蹦乱跳地训练。


我希望气象站现在就统计一下菲律宾的政治局势,告诉大家阿基诺总统如今的支持率。


mommy007 posted on May 05, 2012 09:15 AM


...........yes , the chinese are destroying the shoal.........sadly , our govt is helpless about it......


……是的,中国人正在毁掉黄岩岛……令人悲哀的是,我们的政府在这上面毫无作为……


migg2 posted on May 05, 2012 09:14 AM


Quote:


monita726 wrote:


We are being bullied by China frontally in Panatag Shoal and our Coast Guard can not do anything except to watch. We can not expect any help from the US based on Mutual Defense Treaty based on their various interpretation of this treaty. We are very weak militarily and what we have are politicians who love to grandstand. I think the only choice we have is to revive the Philippine Statehood. Once we become state of US, we will solve a lot of our problems like dollar salting being done by both businessmen and politicians, we will become militarily strong, no more long lines at US Embassy to get Visa.


monita726:statehood myass


引用“monita726:我们在黄岩岛被中国欺负了,而我国的海岸警卫队除了看着,啥都做不了。我们不能指望美国依据《共同防御条约》来帮助我们,我们只有爱哗众取宠的政治家。我想我们的唯一选择就是恢复菲律宾(作为美国一个)州的状态。只要我们成为美国的一部分,我们将解决一系列自身的问题,比如说商人和政治家携带美元外逃,我们在军事上将变得强大,而且再也不用到美国使馆前排长队拿签证了。”


monita726,还是别恢复作为美国一个州的状态了。


monita726 posted on May 05, 2012 09:03 AM


We are being bullied by China frontally in Panatag Shoal and our Coast Guard can not do anything except to watch. We can not expect any help from the US based on Mutual Defense Treaty based on their various interpretation of this treaty. We are very weak militarily and what we have are politicians who love to grandstand. I think the only choice we have is to revive the Philippine Statehood. Once we become state of US, we will solve a lot of our problems like dollar salting being done by both businessmen and politicians, we will become militarily strong, no more long lines at US Embassy to get Visa.


我们在黄岩岛被中国欺负了,而我国的海岸警卫队除了看着,啥都做不了。我们不能指望美国依据《共同防御条约》来帮助我们,我们只有爱哗众取宠的政治家。我想我们的唯一选择就是恢复菲律宾(作为美国一个)州的状态。只要我们成为美国的一部分,我们将解决一系列自身的问题,比如说商人和政治家携带美元外逃,我们在军事上将变得强大,而且再也不用到美国使馆前排长队拿签证了。


dmbanta posted on May 05, 2012 06:43 AM


GREENPEACE, where are you?


绿色和平组织,你在哪里?


译者注:这些菲律宾的网民骂政府和我国的愤愤们简直如出一辙,真是天下乌鸦一般黑啊!


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