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导读:资料图:越南所处地理位置 这是topix上的一个关于越南是不是中国的一个省的投票,时间跨度比较大,最早回帖来自2008年。截止翻译时,投票结果如下: 共计有346人投票,其中选择“不是”的有127人占36%, 选择“曾经是”的有111人,占32%,选择“是”的有79人,占22%,选择“以后会是”的有29人,占8% (加拿大)seems your HIV virus has penetrated into your brain. 楼主,看起来HIV艾滋病毒已经侵入你的大脑了(译
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这是topix上的一个关于越南是不是中国的一个省的投票,时间跨度比较大,最早回帖来自2008年。截止翻译时,投票结果如下:

共计有346人投票,其中选择“不是”的有127人占36%,

选择“曾经是”的有111人,占32%,选择“是”的有79人,占22%,选择“以后会是”的有29人,占8%


评论翻译:加拿大)seems your HIV virus has penetrated into your brain.

楼主,看起来HIV艾滋病毒已经侵入你的大脑了(译者注:楼主ID刚好叫HIV,艾滋病毒)


澳大利亚)is Canada part of USA?

加拿大美国的一部分吗?


美国)Yes, after Tibet and Taiwan, China will think about Vietnam, I am sure hehehehe

It is not surprised for people around the world

是的,在西藏和台湾之后中国会考虑越南的,我确定,呵呵。

对全世界人来说都没什么好奇怪的。


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(加拿大)“HIV wrote:

Yes, after Tibet and Taiwan, China will think about Vietnam, I am sure hehehehe

It is not surprised for people around the world ”

of course you will think this and that ... I don't blame you, you have HIV virus in your brain.

引用“是的,在西藏和台湾之后中国会考虑越南的,我确定,呵呵。

对全世界人来说都没什么好奇怪的。”

你当然会这么想,我不怪你,你脑子里有HIV病毒


(美国)Some Chinese in this forum said that Vietnam is a group of Chinese moving South ( i think he called Vietnamese Yeu or something likes that)and Chinese conquered and ruled Vietnam from 1st century to 11st century

Why not it is a part of China?

If in 1950, instead of invading

Tibet, China invaded Vietnam and now Vietnam should be the same lol

一些在这个论坛的中国人说越南是由中国人南迁形成的(我认为他们应该叫越侨什么的)

而且中国在1世纪到11世纪都占领着越南。为什么越南不是中国的一部分呢?

如果1950年的时候,中国侵略了越南,而不是西藏,那越南现在就和西藏一样了。


(中国)it's really used to be

以前真的是


(未知)Vietnamese are using the same surnames as Chinese.Their people's Y-chromosomes must come from China.

越南人和中国人用一样的姓,他们的Y染色体一定是来自中国的。


(美国)“bigball wrote:

Vietnamese are using the same surnames as Chinese.Their people's Y-chromosomes must come from China. ”

Right, that is why I said Vietnam is a province of China

I think Singapore is a part of China too. Singapore's population is made up by more than 75% Chinese. Once, China conquers Vietnam, Singapore is just an hour to reach


LOL

引用“越南人和中国人用一样的姓,他们的Y染色体一定是来自中国的。”

是的,那就是为什么我说越南是中国的一个省

我认为新加坡也是中国的一部分。新加坡的人口由多达75%的中国人组成。一旦中国征服了越南,新加坡就如同囊中之物了。


(中国)“HIV wrote:

Right, that is why I said Vietnam is a province of China

I think Singapore is a part of China too.

Singapore's population is made up by more than 75% Chinese. Once, China conquers Vietnam, Singapore is just an hour to reach

LOL ”

Singapore is not being ruled by the Chinese Government at all. So it is not. Vietnam is a province of China before Ming dynasty, so it used to be. People in Vietnam are not Han.

引用“是的,那就是为什么我说越南是中国的一个省

我认为新加坡也是中国的一部分。新加坡的人口由多达75%的中国人组成。一旦中国征服了越南,新加坡就如同囊中之物了。”

新加坡根本就不是中国政府掌管的。所以新加坡不是中国的一部分。越南在明朝之前是中国的一个省,所以它曾经是。在越南的人民不是汉族。


(美国)“OMG wrote:

Is it another joke? ”

Don't you get the joke?

China can invade any country, then it will say that "hundreds years age, that country used to belong to us", " 75% of people in that part of our country are Chinese" or even "China needs it for land and resource "

Hahahaha what a stupid joke huh? But it may become true

引用“这又是一个玩笑?”

你不觉得好笑?

中国能征服任何一个国家,然后它会说“几百年前,这个国家是属于中国的。”,“那国家75%的人是中国人”或甚至是“中国需要这块土地的资源”

哈哈哈真是个白痴的笑话,但是可能会成真。


(美国)HIV, calm down

"hundreds years age, that country used to belong to us"

If you say up to 100 years ago. I still can tell you

Vietnam and Japan are not included in China's territory. And if it is history, we could say that: Alaska used to be a part of Russia, right?

So what, it is the truth, but now it belongs to the US. And we could say 100 years ago, British has Hongkong, but now it belongs to China again. That is also a truth. We also could say Rome is the only empire whose territory contains three continents. Many countries around mediterranean sea used to belong to Rome. That is also the truth.

" 75% of people in that part of our country are Chinese"

That is a kind of statistic thing. I think it is not the people say that first. It did by some orgnization who want to know the build up of the population.

"China needs it for land and resource "

So we have it? sign......

Yeah, it seems like it is not a joke now...You misunderstand the meaning included in those sentences. However, if you judge people in that way, then I am not surprised.

楼主,冷静下

关于“几百年前,这个国家是属于我们的”这句话

就算你在100年前说,我还是会告诉你越南和日本不属于中国的领土。如果看历史的话,我们是不是可以说“阿拉斯加是俄罗斯的一部分”?

就算曾经是那又怎样,现在它是美国的。而且我们还能说100年前英国拥有香港呢,但现在香港又回归中国了。这也是个事实。我们也能说罗马是唯一一个横跨三大洲的帝国。许多地中海国家曾经属于罗马,这也是事实。

关于“那国家75%的人是中国人”这只是个数字游戏。我认为这不是中国人最先说的。这是一些想要了解其自身人口组成的组织机构研究出来的。

至于“中国需要这块土地的资源”这句话,真的有吗?叹气~是的,现在看上去这不是一个笑话了,你误解了这些话语中的含义,但是如果你一直是这么判断人的,那我也就不会奇怪了。


(美国)What a country use to be a part of another is never an issue where sovereignty is concerned, nor is it what the Chinese claim of territory is based upon. It is the continuous legal ownership of

Tibet ever since 1792 that the Chinese sovereignty over Tibet is hence recognized by the international community. Of course to a crack-head, it is too hard to understand what legal ownership means.

一个国家以前是不是别的国家的一部分从来都不是确定一个国家主权的前提条件,也不是靠中国声称领土就归他们了。中国对西藏自1792以来就拥有其合法所有权,中国对西藏的主权也因此获得了国际社会的认可,当然,对一个二逼来说,是很难理解合法所有权的含义的。


(加拿大)“Don't you get the joke?

China can invade any country, then it will say that "hundreds years age, that country used to belong to us", " 75% of people in that part of our country are Chinese" or even "China needs it for land and resource "

Hahahaha what a stupid joke huh? But it may become true”

Yes, I agree with you. China can invade any country, but unfortunately never did so. The most recently invaded country is Iraq. I am wondering which country did that.

引用:“你不觉得好笑?

中国能征服任何一个国家,然后它会说“几百年前,这个国家是属于中国的。”,“那国家75%的人是中国人”或甚至是“中国需要这块土地的资源”

哈哈哈真是个白痴的笑话,但是可能会成真。”

是的,我同意你的话,中国能征服任何一个国家,但是很不幸他们从来没这么干。最近被侵略的国家是伊拉克,我在想是哪个国家干了这事。


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(加拿大)“HIV wrote:

Some Chinese in this forum said that Vietnam is a group of Chinese moving South ( i think he called Vietnamese Yeu or something likes that)

and Chinese conquered and ruled Vietnam from 1st century to 11st century

Why not it is a part of China?

If in 1950, instead of invading Tibet, China invaded Vietnam and now Vietnam should be the same lol ”

For your information, I checked a British map in 18th century, a Japanese map in 1908, and a map kept at HarvardUniv. in 1950, they all included Tibet as part of China. It's not "Invading". If US sends its troop to Texas, is that invading?

引用“一些在这个论坛的中国人说越南是由中国人南迁形成的(我认为他们应该叫越侨什么的)而且中国在1世纪到11世纪都占领着越南。为什么越南不是中国的一部分呢?

如果1950年的时候,中国侵略了越南,而不是西藏,那越南现在就和西藏一样了。”

根据你的信息,我去查了查一份18世纪的英国地图,一份1908年的日本地图以及一份1950年的哈佛大学地图,上面全部都写着西藏是中国的一部分。这不叫“侵略”。如果美国把军队开往德克萨斯,这是侵略吗?


(中国)Believe me, if India have the power to fight US easily, it would do that.

相信我,如果印度有可以轻易打败美国的力量,它会使用的。


(印度)No, India is not a foolish country like you who is after other country's land. You chinese are greedy by nature.

不,印度不是个像你们一样只想着侵略别人土地的傻子,你们中国人天生就贪婪。


(中国)“Kabeer wrote:

No, India is not a foolish country like you who is after other country's land. You chinese are greedy by nature. ”

So we are greedy, and you? Why you occupy SIKKIM and detained it's king in 1975? If India is not a foolish country indeed then you will not be controled by the UK for 200 years and then won your freedom in such a graceful way. Maybe be cowardish is more suitable for you than foolish.

引用“不,印度不是个像你一样只想着侵略别人土地的傻子,你们中国人天生就贪婪。”


好吧我们很贪婪,你们呢?你们在1975年为什么占领锡金并拘留锡金的国王?如果印度真的不是个傻子那你们就不会被英国控制200年然后如此“优雅”地赢得你们的自由了,也许懦弱比傻子更适合你们。

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(美国)OK, I think Vietnam is a part of China LOL because I heard many Vietnamese people are ready to join Tibetans to protest the bloody Games as they want China to return Paracel and Spratly Islands

好吧,我认为越南是中国的一部分,呵呵,因为我听说很多越南人正准备加入西藏人一起抗议这血腥游戏,他们想要中国把南沙群岛还给他们。


(美国)I think this planet belongs to China what do you think?

我认为整个地球都是中国的,你们觉得呢?


(美国)Is Vietnam a province of China?

Yes, look at 2 flags Vietnamese

flag is a part of

China flag

越南是不是中国的一个省?

是的,看看他们的国旗吧

越南的国旗是中国国旗的一部分。


(泰国)A Chinese friend of mine once said that Vietnam was born when China, hundreds of years ago, purged the country of all criminals and forced them to move south. Whether or not this is true I don't know, but one thing is for sure: Most Chinese don't like Vietnamese and they are even afraid of them.

我的一个中国朋友曾经说越南是中国几百年前让一些流放的罪犯南迁形成的。我不知道这是不是真的,但是有一件事我很确定,大多数中国人不喜欢越南人,而且他们也不怕越南人。


(中国)who is making this topic? That is nonsence.

Vietnam is Vietnam, China is China. We are different country. Some part of Vietnam used to be a part of China.In Ming Dinasty, Vietam is an indepent country,but with differnt country relation with China.From Han dinasty to Song Dinasty(B.C 2century-D.C.14century),Some part of vietam used to be one part of China as province.As you know at that time,

Vietnam area had many kingkom. not a whole country.But now Vietnam is an excellent vietnam, They are developping and will become a excellent vietnam. I hope all vietnam person will enhoy their life there.

谁发的帖子?无聊。越南是越南,中国是中国。我们是不同的国家。越南有一部分曾经是中国的。在明朝的时候,越南是独立国家,和中国建立了很多外交关系。从汉朝到宋朝(公元前2世纪到公元14世纪),越南有一部分曾经是中国的一个省。因为你知道,在那时,越南有很多国家,不是一个整体。但是现在越南是一个很棒的越南,他们发展的很好。我希望所有的越南人都能喜欢他们的生活。(译者注:其实宋朝是到13世纪结束)


(中国)“Think about It wrote:

A Chinese friend of mine once said that Vietnam was born when China, hundreds of years ago, purged the country of all criminals and forced them to move south. Whether or not this is true I don't know, but one thing is for sure: Most Chinese don't like Vietnamese and they are even afraid of them. ”

That is maybe. For most of Chinese. we have no special detesting emotion aout vietnam, even if we had the border war between 1979 and 1989. and many soldiers died for that. China is too big, and we are neighnour. We can accept some different view and action.... This is my personel view, To be frank, Chinese are not evil or beast. We are also kind person. we like friend, peascefullylive with strange, develop by our way. We love peace. The govenment and every chinese love peace.

引用“我的一个中国朋友曾经说越南是中国几百年前让一些流放的罪犯南迁形成的。我不知道这是不是真的,但是有一件事我很确定,大多数中国人不喜欢越南人,而且他们也不怕越南人。”


也许吧。对大多数中国人来说。我们没有特别的讨厌越南,即使我们在1979年到1989年之间有边界战争,许多士兵因此牺牲。中国太大了,而且我们是邻国。我们可以接受不同的观点和行为……这是我的个人看法,老实说,中国不是什么邪恶的坏蛋。我们也是很好的人。我们喜欢朋友,与陌生人和平的生活,以我们自己的方式发展。我们爱和平。政府和每一个中国人都爱和平。


(美国)“Juran wrote:

For your information, I checked a British map in 18th century, a Japanese map in 1908, and a map kept at Harvard Univ. in 1950, they all included Tibet as part of China. It's not "Invading". If US sends its troop to Texas, is that invading? ”

There are other old maps which show Tibet as independent. All that your finds prove is that some people were poor mapmakers.

引用“根据你的信息,我去查了查一份18世纪的英国地图,一份1908年的日本地图以及一份1950年的哈佛大学地图,上面全部都写着西藏是中国的一部分。这不叫“侵略”。如果美国把军队开往德克萨斯,这是侵略吗?”

还有其他的老地图显示西藏是独立的。你找到的那些只不过是无能的制图者做的。



本文内容于 2012/5/6 12:48:31 被赤色的中国心编辑

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