1.HOK GAN wrote:
try to solve the matter on the table, restrain from usage of hawkish provocation, before any disgrace
Sammy Leung replied:
doesn't need the resource as much as Vietnam, China is treating it the same as the other disputed territories. China is simply saying no body touch it until the dispute is over.
2. Viet Ong wrote
From strategic view, Vietnam's action is understandable. China
want to test Vietnam's response, so Vietnam will response like this.
The reporter of WSJ is not based in Vietnam so he does not know that there are thousands of people protesting in Hochiminh City on Jun 5, 2011. Vietnam people across the country is very angry about China.
Fred Higgenbottom replied:
Why should anyone in America care? Let these two communist nations battle it out to solve their own rivalries! But Vietnam
should be wary with false bravado and sabre rattling. China has more census takers than Vietnam has people!
3. Nguyen Vinh dan wrote
The Chinese shall never underestimate the nationalistic sentiments of the Vietnamese. Eventhough, the Vietnam is much weaker than China
in terms of army, the Vietnamese have never given up or cowed down to the chinese.
WarrenDar USA replied
This could get interesting...Looks like we are heading for a "Communists Summer" in SE Asia to compete with the "Arabs Spring". Fine with the US & Russia
as it is all done without the US & Russia sending in its troops firing a shot (but glad to act as a proxy by providing weapons & "advisors" when asked).
Finally, I think VN should starts a "peaceful" nuclear program as a supplement to energy program (i.e. Syria, North Korea, and Iran
) and as a poor-man deterrent against China. And the USA & Russia would conveniently ignore (or even assist) with that aspiration as a blind spot in the UN Security Council for a pay back to China's behaviors in the past.
Dan Nguyen replied
Agree with you about Vietnam starting a nuclear program...
Greg Arnot replied (译者：这货八成是越南人，而且是比较2B的那种，后面其发言尽显无遗)
invaded Vietnam in 1979.
Over 50,000 Chinese soliders were killed in about 2 weeks. It was a bloodbath.
Vietnam's victory over China motivated China to reform and modernize their military.
Yet, even today, I do not think China can defeat Vietnam. China's missiles are deployed against Taiwan so a war would mean China is likely to repeat its mistakes of 1979.
Falcon Huang replied:
So Greg, why didn't you finish up that story about your mother and some Japanese men that got you admitted into a mental hospital.
4 Terry Kimble wrote
The Big Deal with China will be because of China
's limited resources. Between bribing their way into Africa and just taking from their neighbors, China is on a natural resource trajectory that does not support their mercantilism economy. As that fact comes more into focus the world will get a closer look at the decision process of the Chicoms. The danger is that so many countries have let China get away with making up their own rules that China will not be used to anyone saying no to them.
5Jun Jing wrote:
trying to start a war? Unwise.
Greg Arnot replied
In 1979, Vietnam killed over 50,000 Chinese soldiers in less than two weeks. It was a slaughter.
6 Charles Chuck wrote
is backed by Russia and Phillipines is backed by USA. Who backs China? Without backing of a major power, China has no assurance to win a war with even the minor neighbor. This is no fault of Deng and the present leaders in China, as it is a legacy of Mao, who backed Vietcom to fight for unification, while sending all of their ingenious scientists to hard labor instead of developing high-end navy/air techs, wasting half a century precious window period of peace for catching up. However, as a peace-loving person, I'd like to advice Vietnam leaders not to bully China too much. Give them some face, that's good for everybody.
Falcon Huang replied:
I think you were joking. US would not want to risk war with China over Vietnam
. Time have changed when China has shown the capability to have their submarines carrying nuclear missiles surfacing a stone throw from US coast without early detection. Another milestone was when China has achieved the ability to shoot down satellites that could make US missiles and her aerial / maritime operations semi blind.
Russia has a close relationship with China and the two have settled their border dispute. They are major trading partners to each other. Why would the Russian thinks like a naive American hillbilly you seems to be.
Charles Chuck replied
Yes, you are right that Russia and China have settled their border dispute as China
formally admits severance of the vast FarEast region (North Manchuria) with abundant oil/wood/fresh water resources to Russia, something the past Chinese rulers dared not to sign, because they know they cannot win a major war with Russia. Now, similar to Northern Manchuria, South China Sea will be taken by any regional country including China and Vietnam who dare to fight and can win a war. The question is, is China ready to interrupt its chance of development to fight a major war with Vietnam? My answer is NO.
Greg Arnot replied
invaded Vietnam in 1979 and over 50,000 Chinese soldiers were killed in less than two weeks.
The Vietnamese army made the PLA look like poorly trained chimps.
Kenny Zhu...you are a malicious fool. Without the US military, your mother would have spent her life dating the Japanese Army.
You shame all of China.
>>when China has shown the capability to have their submarines carrying nuclear missiles surfacing a stone throw from US coast without early detection<<
Not true Kenny Zhu. China only has diesel powered submarines...they can not cross the Pacific without surfacing. China
does not have missile attack subs, no Polaris or Poseidon counterparts.
All China has is a loudmouth like you, a shame to your own mother and a shame to all of China.
Stephen Morris replied
"Who backs China?" China
is a major power in its' own right! I am not quite sure if they and others have figured that out yet.
Charles Chuck replied
Of course China is a major power. As a matter of fact, without China
's help, Vietcong has little chance to defeat France and USA to unify and now even to bully China. I believe this strange phenomenon may be due to the Sino-Russia treaty signed 10 years ago to concede such a huge piece of territory with abundant oil/gas to Russia encourages all of the local countries to look down China, or due to the concession given by China to admit in-factor occupation by Japan of Senkaku Island (Diaoyu Island), or due to abandoning of the southern Tibet territory to India after winning the 1962 Sino-India war, or due to giving half of Mt. Everest as gifts to Neple and half of Mt. Baitou as gifts to North Korea? Did Chinese leaders intentionlly show the weakness, or they really don't care cutting off pieces of terretory to other countries? Can you imagine Japan to make live-fire drill near its "Northen 4 islands" now occupied by Russia? Can you imagine Cuba to make live-fire drill near US oil field in Mexico Bay? Can you imagine Argentina to make live-fire drill near Forkland Island?
Falcon Huang replied
A settlement is worth the settlement if the counter party is one that does not flip flop. Russia, despite her aggressive disposition will find that peace with China
is mutually beneficial. And as to Vietnam, there is just a possibility that China may back down AT THE MOMENT. I hope Vietnam will realize that China will settle the case plus interest when the time is appropriate.
Greg old fool
So the big mouth who claimed to be at Tiananmen and watched tens of thousands of Chinese students crushed by tanks and is now here to claim his prize as a dirty cheap liar. You have a loose mouth and you have some mental illness because of something between your mother and some Japanese men.
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