Isnt that a bit of a stupid statement. Neither the Mig nor the Su were ever built beyond test articles.
Is he trying to imply Russia has what 2, 3 "5th gen" fighters to everyone elses 1
Nanchang is now Hongdu. It was traditionally one of the most innovative Chinese design/manufacturing houses. Usually low funded projects that turned out pretty well.
Their line of products -- CJ6, Q-5 and K-8 -- actually have a pretty good reputation in relation to funding.
他们的生产线有- CJ6, Q-5 and K-8-事实上对他们的投资都不大，他们都具有很好的声誉。
Yes, but their Q-5 line is winding down and L-15 will not be a combat fighter replacement for Q-5 or the lowend .
they ( meaning their tactical fighter R/D capability) can not subsist on L-15.
They are working on UCAVs.
Interesting there was a idea to traineriz the FC-1 (twin seat, more structure life) flowing around but L-15 won out.
Guizhou is the more vulnerable one. I would rather see that capability rolled into Chengdu or something like that. they already co-operate on the FT-2000 project anyways
The L15 is the followon to the K-8 (arguably the most success Chinese export) and will have a customer base both domestic and overseas. Nanchang/Hongdu do compete with Guizhou domestically.
The main function of both firms is assembling trainers not UCAVs -- which at any rate are years in the future unless you are talking about re-purposed J-5 target drones (Ba-5) produced by Shenyang.
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Theres a general trend of being more open with military projects. China is becoming more confident of its place in the world, and showing off its successes lets the world know China should be treated like a great power.
I think Chinese leaders are tired of the US not treating China as an equal, of building regional coalitions and doing wargames like they expect to patrol off Chinas coast forever, of the EU arms embargo, of people who still holds the obsolete paradigm that Chinas military industry would remain perpetually third rate. I think they want to send the message that they cant be contained, so show some respect.
This is much more valuable than secrecy of various projects, which to be honest we would expect the worlds intelligence networks to know a great deal more than us internet watchers. JXX probably has been photographed from space for years.
It could be as simple as a changing and (explosively) wealthier society becoming ever more armed with cellphones and digital cameras that can take pictures and upload them on the internet.
It was far easier to keep things quiet in a poorer society when it wasnt the worlds largest internet population.
Its probably impossible to control 400 million internet users.
Maybe they couldnt keep it under wraps. Why assume that it could? We saw fuzzy pictures of J-10s from Chengdu in the 1990s and that was way before the explosion of the internet in China. Now, it could simply be the impossibility of keeping every one of hundreds of millions internet users from uploading pictures.
That said, all these pictures (and the J-10 ones before) were released in the Chinese language web world which is for all intent and purposes disconnected from the English speaking one we reside in on AFM. Every picture in this thread depended on a Chinese speaker transferring it from the Chinese world to the English one.
So if there was a purpose behind it, it was a message to the Chinese people first. Maybe its a nationalistic thing. But nationalism would be far better served by an official announcement.
Maybe the J-20 is already old news just like the J-10 was and the J-15 after that because more classified projects are proceeding in secrecy in a desert in the Northwest somewhere.
But the simplest explanation is that Chengdu is a major metropolitan area with seven million people in a fast changing society that is wired with broadband with digital cameras and cellphones everywhere. And CAC is smack in the middle of that.
Oh, my god, its 21 pages now, approxi 3 pages per day since this a/c published online.
If our memory works, this a/c we should quite familiar to since its model unclassified several years ago. Why it provoked emotion so much, I wonder.
Have you ever noticed this only an enlarged fuselage of twin engine F-35 with 1.44 wing added, nothing new.
Mixing subsistant thing from others always does piece you created no good especially you made it in simple way.
When you say Rafale inherited Mirage, yes, it is, but only macroprofile, even the type of wing are not simplized took from Mirage, and rest each of them are different. When we say PAKFA is a Raptorski, you may say it rightly, but can you point exactly which part of Su-50 is same with F-22? You want to, but when you want to, each part you want to point contains quite a lot difference.
Now we can see the entire fuselage of J-20 merely is a scaled copy of F-35 and its wing shape is a copy of 1.44, maybe the aerodynamic profile of the wing is innovated by Chinese. However, just as member posted, the testing process of PAKFA also tried canards layout, why Russian do not like canards? Why the canards on J-20 was made as anhedral? Pelvic fin has been seen even, makes it a very interceptor back to last centery.
Oh, its canopy look like F-22, does this means advantage to us?