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一直以来,在我的印象中,伊朗总统内贾德是个思想混乱、行为怪异、不负责任、口无遮拦,经常在国际社会惹事生非的主,我甚至曾一度认为伊朗人民选这么个人当总统简直是自作孽。可没想到啊,没想到……他近日接受美国有线电视新闻网(即CNN)“拉里·金访谈”节目专访的表现,那可真是超级棒啊!他的修养、风度、睿智、雄辩、胆略以及正义感、使命感都不得了,实属当今世界顶级人物。我感觉自己被主流媒体多年来刻意编辑、选择性播出内贾德的“片言只语”及视频、图片形象给忽悠了。与此相反,拉里·金这个戴着西方“普世价值”光环,有着“正义化身”之誉的美国“国嘴”,这次被内贾德打回原形,露出了自己偏执、傲慢、无知、无赖和小丑的真实嘴脸。

[中文字幕]伊朗总统内贾德在美国接受CNN专访

总之内贾德舌战拉里·金的访谈节目太有看头,还是请各位网友直接欣赏吧!


伊朗总统内贾德接受美国有线电视新闻网拉里-金专访节目(中英文对白)


以下是采谈录实录(中英文对照):

KING: Mr. President, thank you for coming back to LARRY KING LIVE. Do you like coming to America?

拉里-金(后简称为金):总统先生,感谢你回到拉里-金实况。你喜欢来美国吗?

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): In the name of God, the compassionate, the merciful, I’’d like to say hello to your audience, to you and your colleagues, and ask Almighty God to bring health, prosperity and success to all people and nations and countries

内贾德(后简称为内,通过翻译):奉至仁至慈真主之名,我想向你的听众、你、你的同事问好。请求万能的真主给所有人和所有国家带来健康、繁荣、成功。

I am interested in traveling to all parts of the world to meet with people. The United Nations is an important forum for the exchange of international ideas on how to run international affairs and naturally people like myself should be actively involved in its work。

我对前往世界各地和人们会面很感兴趣。联合国是一个就如何管理国际事务进行国际想法交流的一个重要论坛。很自然,像我这样的人应当积极参与它的工作。

KING: Let’’s get to some current issues. A few days ago, you released the American hiker, but there is still two captives in Iran. How long will they be detained?

金:让我们来谈一些时事议题。就在几天前,你释放了一名美国徒步者,但仍有两名徒步者被伊朗关押。他们要被关押多长时间?

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): Well, they crossed our borders, violated the borders, and a judge will take care of their case。

内:哦,他们越过了我们的边境,侵犯了我们的边境,一位法官将处理他们的案件。

KING: But you did release one. Is there any chance in the name of goodwill that you’’ll release the others? There were two hikers who made a mistake。

金:但你已经释放了其中的一人。是否存在你以良好愿望的名义释放其他两位徒步者的可能?两位徒步者只是犯了一个错误。

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): That one person was released on bail because of mercy, compassion and as a humanitarian gesture. As for the others, yes, there is a chance, but the judge has to take care of the case。

内:一个人已因为同情、怜悯、作为一个人道主义姿态获得保释。对于其他两人来说,仍存在保释的可能性,但法官得处理该案。

KING: Do you know when?

金:你知道是什么时候吗?

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): It depends on the judge who will need to handle the case, issue a verdict. There’’s a process that must go through。

内:这取决于处理此案的法官,给出判决,必须走这套法律过程。

KING: Do you have any influence in that process?

金:你是否对这一过程有任何影响力?

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): I have no influence over it. But I have suggested for the lady, in her case, that it be regarded with clemency, mercy and more kindness and compassion to allow her to return to her family。

内:我对此没有影响力,但我就女徒步者案件给出了建议,我建议法官对此持宽厚、怜悯和更大的善意、同情心,以允许她返回美国与家人团聚。

KING: What about bail for the other two?

金:其他两人是否也能获得保释?

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): It is possible. It depends on the judge。

内:这是可能的,这取决于法官。

KING: Would you -- you’’re in New York for a few more days. You will address the U.N. tomorrow. Would you meet with their families if they asked to meet with you?

金:你是否,你还要纽约呆上数天,你将于明天向联合国发表讲演。如果徒步者的家人要求会见你,你是否会见他们?

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): Our program is closed right now in terms of the fact that it is a tight schedule. But I’’d have to consider it. And having said that, I have received no requests。

内:我们的活动安排现在已经结束了,我们的时间表很紧,但我愿意考虑这件事。虽然如此,我并没有收到请求。

KING: But if they did request, might you consider it?

金:但是如果他们确实提出了请求,你是否会考虑呢?

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): Yes, I would positively take it into consideration。

内:是的,我将会积极考虑他们的请求。

KING: That is hopeful。

金:这是有希望的。我们询问了徒步者鲍尔和法塔尔的家人,他们的母亲向你提出了这个问题。这两人的母亲仍在纽约。

总统先生,当你上一次12个月前在纽约参加联合国大会时,你承诺将要求司法部门加快处理我们孩子的案件,就案件表现出最大的宽大。这并没有发生,我们的心碎了。当你返回德黑兰,你是否会再次向司法部门提出要求?

We asked the families -- the families of Shane Bauer and Josh Fattal, the two prisoners, and their mothers passed this question along to you. This is from the mothers of the two still there。

Mr. President, the last time you were in New York for the U.N. General Assembly 12 months ago, you promised to ask the judiciary to expedite our children’’s case and show maximum leniency. Our hearts are broken that this has not happened. Please, will you make this request again when you return to Tehran?

内:我认为,这确实发生了。所有的国家在对待非法越境边境方面都制订有严格的法律,对这样的行为都要进行严惩。

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): I think that it did happen. In all countries you have very strict laws and strict punishments for border crossings that are illegal。

金:你是否提出要求-他们询问你是否要求司法部门处理此案,他们想念他们的家人。

KING: But did you make the request -- they’’re asking if you would make the request of the judiciary to move it along. They miss their families。

内:我认为世界上有非常多的犯人。我是否要亲自就他们中的每个人提出要求?

现在,虽然这样说了,我已要求司法部门仔细研究三名美国徒步者的案件。你知道,世界上有许多犯人。在美国就有250万犯人。

我是否可以要求美国的司法部门表现出宽大?事实上,我将抓住这个机会,要求美国的司法部门对美国的250万犯人表现出宽大。他们有配偶,他们有母亲、孩子、父母。许多人很年轻。

AHMADINEJAD (through translator): I think that there are many prisoners in the world. Do I have to make a personal request for everyone?

Now, having said that, I have requested the judiciary to look at the case of these three people’’s cases carefully but, you know, there are many prisoners in the world. Here in the United States, there are 2.5 million。

Can I request the judiciary here in the United States to show leniency and I would, in fact, seize this opportunity here and ask the judicial body of the United States, judicial leniency, in the case of the 2.5 million prisoners in this country. They have spouses. They have mothers, children, parents. Many are young。

金:我们将在广告时间后继续与伊朗总统内贾德进行讨论。

KING: We’’ll have more with the president of Iran right after this。

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