[原创]西方论坛对中国的态度变化,印证了邓小平同志的话‘发展才是硬道理’!!

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导读:记得我刚来英国的时候,英国人对中国的偏见和无知是极其普遍的!比如说他们对中国的计划生育极为反感。他们说你们中国政府真没开化,计划生育是反人类的,而且你们中国人又这么的愚昧!我只能耐心的去解释中国的基本国情和经济状况,但是他们就是听不进去。 转眼间7年过去了,中国在经济和社会建设领域创造了有目共睹的成绩。加上国际形象的不断改善,更多的西方人去中国旅行,尤其是奥运那段时间。(这里我还要感谢那些藏独和**小丑们,他们激起了国外学子们的爱国之心,中国留学生在那段时间里不断的举行游行来抗议西方的不真实报道,这从

记得我刚来英国的时候,英国人对中国的偏见和无知是极其普遍的!比如说他们对中国的计划生育极为反感。他们说你们中国政府真没开化,计划生育是反人类的,而且你们中国人又这么的愚昧!我只能耐心的去解释中国的基本国情和经济状况,但是他们就是听不进去。


转眼间7年过去了,中国在经济和社会建设领域创造了有目共睹的成绩。加上国际形象的不断改善,更多的西方人去中国旅行,尤其是奥运那段时间。(这里我还要感谢那些藏独和**小丑们,他们激起了国外学子们的爱国之心,中国留学生在那段时间里不断的举行游行来抗议西方的不真实报道,这从一定程度上引起了一部分西方人的疑问。他们觉得,这些中国留学生生活在所谓的‘言论自由’社会里,为什么还是那么支持中国政府对藏族和维吾尔的‘镇压’呢?)他们所见到的中国和媒体里的中国有很大的出入,所以现在相当一部分欧洲人越来越对他们的主流媒体产生怀疑了。


就在前些时间,上海政府提倡国家改变独生子女政策,鼓励一个家庭生2个孩子,为了解决中国人口老龄化的问题,同时我在BBC看一个关于‘中国的计划生育’主题。 可以预测的是BBC的主持人还是老生常谈什么‘人权’之类的东西。起先我预测讨论者也应该离不开这个主题。不过结果真的是完全出乎我预料!


一下是一些回帖翻译(不代表本人的观点)。 p.s 100%真实,唾弃作假


China deserves praise for having controlled their population growth in the last decades. India, Pakistan, and much of Africa should take a lesson from China.

Mustafa Yorumcu, London (来自伦敦)

中国在过去几十年里的计划生育应该受到赞扬。印度,巴基斯坦还有那些非洲国家因该像中国学习。(此贴被顶了203次)


China should stick to its one-child policy. And the rest of the world should limit tax breaks/benefits to the first child only. There are already millions of unwanted children in this world, doomed to a life of starvation and poverty.

Stop at one!

Lime Candy, Birmingham (来自伯明翰

中国因该坚持她的计划生育。同时其他国家(他这里指的是发达国家)因该只对第一个孩子实行福利政策(在英国你孩子生得越多福利也就越多)。现在已经有上百万的被‘父母遗弃’的孩子,面对他们的只有饥饿和贫困。


In this era of overpopulation-denial, I applaud China's policies. If only some of our developing countries had followed the same trend.

Allan Banda, Blantyre, Malawi (来自马拉维

生活在否认人口暴涨的时代里,我赞美中国的政策。如果有更多的第三世界国家能有同样的政策。


There are too many Earthlings already! Far from changing China's policy one-child, all nations should follow it!

mattie, san francisco (来自美国旧金山

现在有太多的人口了!不单单中国要保留计划生育,所有国家都因该这样!


The UN needs to strongly encourage a universal debate on world population growth. Earth has only finite resources, and simple mathematics tell us that it can only support a certain population level. Having more than 2 children is both selfish and undesirable, and if people refuse to voluntarily control pregnancy levels then there will soon come a time when more drastic measures will be introduced, as survival instincts cut in as folk fight over diminishing food and water resources

Keith fenny, nes, Norway (来自挪威

联合国要组织一场全球人口增长辩论。地球上的资源是有限的,如果你懂得基本数学常识的话就因该知道人口也是要有限制的。拥有2个孩子以上是自私和不受欢迎的,如果平常人都拒绝自愿去控制人口,不久以后就会有更激烈的手段来迫使你们的,人们的生存本能会迫使人类为了不断减少的食物和水资源而打仗。


What earthly right have people in Europe or the USA to comment on the number of children people in China can have? This is a matter entirely for the Chinese, who are too polite to tell us to push off and put our own houses in order first. The rule in the UK and US seems to be, the less capable a women is to financially support children, the more she will have.

wurzel gummage, bath (来自英国巴斯)

欧洲和美国到底有什么权利来指责和要求中国人因该生几个孩子?这个完全是中国人自己的事情,而且这个国家太顾及我们的面子了,他们都懒的叫我们先管好自己的事情。现在英国和美国的法律反而鼓励那些越没有经济能力抚养后代的人们去生更多的孩子。


The whole idea that the state has anything to say about the number of children a couple has is not just absurd, but barbarian and totalitarian.

Allard Postma, The Netherlands (来自荷兰

国家去控制每个家庭孩子的数量这种行为不单单是愚蠢的,而且是野蛮和独裁的。(这个人的回帖招来了很多具有讽刺性的回帖,下边就是一个来自爱丁堡的苏格兰人的跟贴)

Quite right - everyone should be like Britain where people who have no intention of supporting children breed like rabbits and "allow" the state to feed, clothe, house them.

With freedom comes responsiblity - and there is no real freedom without responsibility.

Doctor Sensible, edinburgh, United Kingdom (爱丁堡)

很对!-- 每个国家都要像英国那样鼓励那些没能力抚养和教育后代的家庭像兔子一样生育后代,然后让国家来喂他们,给他们衣服和房子!自由是建立在责任感上的—没有责任感就没有自由!(这家伙说得很对,英国的纳税人其实很讨厌那些不工作,整天呆在家生孩子花政府钱的‘无业’者)


This seems like an awfully racist question. Should Chinese people be allowed two children, while we in the west have people who breed like rats at the state's expense? What's the agenda here?

[Please-try-again], Midlands, United Kingdom (来自英格兰)

我觉得这个问题非常的种族歧视。我们要求中国这个那个,同时在西方有些人在滥用政府的钱像老鼠一样生产后代。我不知道你的立场是什么?


I don't know what China should or not do in this case. I am sure they know their problems better than us. We can discuss what to do about our own aging population instead...

[hot_spring], London, United Kingdom (来自伦敦)

在人口增长方面我不管中国该做什么或不该做什么。但我可以肯定的是中国人比起我们他们更清楚自己的问题。我们现在因该要去解决自己人口问题。


No government should have the right to interfere when it comes to family matters.


Franziska Erbar


Why? Many of today's "parents" demonstrate quite clearly that they are not fit to make these decisions.

Doctor Sensible, edinburgh, United Kingdom (爱丁堡)

没有政府有权利去干扰家庭内部的事情。(这个是 Doctor Sensible 对一个帖子的引用)

什么?现在不是有很多例子充分证明大多数的‘父母’更本做不了正确的决定吗?


The whole World needs to be as responsible as China when it comes to population control. We, the Human Race, are reproducing ourselves towards a catastrophe in terms of both the environment and resouces. It is time that every Government took heed of this impending disaster that we will evantual have to face.

Mapsion, Wales (威尔士)

在控制人口问题上全世界都要像中国那样有责任感。我们人类正在无节制的繁衍,最终会把世界引向灾难不管是环境或资源方面的。现在正是时候所有政府要行动起来来阻止这场灾难,到头来我们要一起面对的。


Given China's record on human rights, why would anyone want to have one child, let alone 2 or 3?

Greg W, Galway, Ireland (来自爱尔兰

看看中国的人权纪录,为什么人们(指中国人)还要生一个,两个或三个孩子呢?(真是服了这位老兄,大概是一个‘执迷不悟’者)


I remember when China first introduced the One Child policy. The world was horrified at such a draconian move. Now, the world realizes that China foresaw a major problem coming and acted accordingly. With the global population increasing at the rate it is I wonder which country will follow suit? It's inevitable that similar action has to come before we reach the point where the planet cannot cope?

Logicman, Stevenage (来自英格兰中部)

我还记得当时中国刚刚实行计划生育的时候,整个世界被中国政府的‘野蛮’举动震惊了!现在,世界开始意识到中国早在那个时候就已经预测到了人口为题的严峻性,而且他们早就开始行动了。世界人口再这样增长下去,我不知道哪个国家会照中国的样子做?在地球还可以承受的时候,相同的人口控制政策必须要实施。


This is entirely none of the western world's business. China's 1.3billion population consume less resources than the 200 million American do. Officials in Shanghai promotes this policy. They don't force couples to have sex. What's wrong with it? UK and US promoted war against Iraq and Afganistan. Is that not worse in terms of propaganda? Our Bristish government give out so much benefits to couples who can't even afford themselves but have a horde of children. Is that not a vote buying move?

Wayne, London (伦敦)

这根本不干系西方国家一点事情。中国的13亿人口拥有比美国2亿人口更少的资源(兄弟美国人口已经超过3亿了)。 上海的政府官员提倡这项政策又没有限制夫妻的性生活,到底有什么问题呢?而美国和英国只会发动伊拉克阿富汗战争。你们不觉得这些宣传更坏吗?我们英国政府给太多的钱给那些根本没能力(经济上的和知识上的)抚养下一代的夫妻,鼓励他们生一大堆孩子。这根本就是为了拉选票!


At least one country (China) takes over-population seriously. This would be an excellent policy for the UK to implement too. But I suppose the bleeding-hearts will be appalled by the idea of job-dodging adults currently producing offspring as fast as they can in order to boost their income support entitlement actually having to *shock horror* work for a living.

Matt Marshall

至少目前只有一个国家(中国)意识到了人口问题。这同样对英国来说是一个很好的政策。 不过我觉得对于那些‘回避工作’懒惰的成年人来说,这项政策是毛骨悚然的。因为他们就只想多生孩子,这样的话就可以从政府那里得到更多的赡养费和社会福利,然后不用工作也可以过上舒坦的日子。


There should be no child support after the first. If you want more, then you pay for them, not the state! Far too many people having loads of them while expecting the taxpayer to pick up the tab. Over here we have the single "Octo - Mom' who, already having six, (and on welfare!) has eight more that she can't clothe and feed on her own and has to rely on others to support. Disgusting! China should keep to the one child system. Over- population will lead to food and water riots in the future.

Kit, Sierra Madre, California (加利福尼亚)

起先就因该没有儿童补助。如果你要更多的孩子你就要自己负责,而不是让国家来负担!目前已经有太多的人生太多的孩子,然后他们指望纳税人来付他们的账单。在这里(美国)有太多的未成年单生母亲在享受性爱(国家福利)的同时已经有了8个或更多的孩子。她无法抚养,所以让别人来承担。太使人作呕了!中国因该坚持她的计划生育政策。人口过多将会把我们引向食物和水资源暴乱。


It tragically ironic that China is the only country brave enough to enforce a 1 child per family policy that in the very short term will positively transform their society for the better.


Whilst the rest of the world ignores the impending overpopulation and consequent water and food shortages that will ensue, China is actually proactively doing something about it.


I say ironic because our "democratic" West is heading for food and water constraints as soon as 2015.

marcus, Lausanne (来自瑞士北部的一个小地方)

非常具有讽刺意义是中国是惟一一个国家有足够的胆量去施行计划生育。正是这个政策的实施,使得中国在短期内积极地改变了国家和社会的面貌。


同时世界其他国家忽略了人口暴涨所带来的问题,像水资源和食品短缺。中国正在积极地做一些事情。


我用讽刺这个词的原因是到2015后我们所谓的‘民主’国家将把我们带向食物和水资源匮乏的境地。


China is a Communist Republic. So it can do whatever it likes and accordingly formulate any kind of law and enforce upon its poor citizens at any time. So on child or two child policy is not exception to various other policies formulated by Chinese government.

Kul Chandra Timalsina, Kathmandu, Nepal (来自尼泊尔

中国是一个共产主义(独裁)国家。所以(政府)可以制定任何他们所想要的政策,然后可以随时实行在可怜的中国公民上。所以什么所谓的一个孩子或两个孩子只不过是中国政府实行诸多政策当中的一种。(觉得这个人是流亡尼泊尔的藏独败类,在BBC上可以经常看到这一群小丑的‘表演’,只要跟中国有关系的它们就会来‘渲染气氛’)


China is a very unique country. With such a large population to support, it has no chance of being a "free" country. China has been a closed country for so many years, it never developed into a country that can afford to allow freedom. China does not have the resources it needs to continue it's current "capitalist" yearnings. China has benefited from the world market, but it cannot sustain this advantage. China is not ready for today's world. Freedom would destroy the country, they know it

StanW, Concord, California (加利福尼亚)

中国是一个非常特别的国家。拥有这么多的人口根本不可能成为一个‘自由’的国家。中国自我封闭了许多年,中国从来没有发展成为一个国家会享受的起‘自由’。中国没有足够的资源来推动它的‘资本主义’。中国从世界贸易中受益,但是她不可以再这样持续发展下去。中国根本还没有准备好融入‘现代社会’。‘自由’会摧毁这个国家,他们知道。(我的天哪!兄弟先不要说你的话题扯远了,你又怎么知道中国人没自由??!我极度怀疑这个人是个‘轮子’。要么它的思维还是‘冰封’在冷战时期!)




还有大概三四百个回复,翻译的眼都花了。不过以上代表了大体的观点方向。除了几个‘搞笑’的人发表一些‘无知,可笑’的贴,像上面那二个。


我觉得中国的发展不仅仅会影响世界的经济,而且是全方面的,从文化,饮食,思维方式,价值观,政治理念等等。


西方论坛对中国的态度变化,印证了邓小平同志的话‘发展才是硬道理’!!


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