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导读: Baltimore Sun talk forum 巴尔的摩太阳报论坛05-24-2009, 10:41 PM National/World News Talk about events happening across the country and around the world (品论天下事) (多年不接触外语,个别地方很不到位,高手指正) -------------------------------------------------------------------




Baltimore Sun talk forum 巴尔的摩太阳报论坛05-24-2009, 10:41 PM



National/World News Talk about events happening across the country and around the world

(品论天下事)

(多年不接触外语,个别地方很不到位,高手指正)

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Originally Posted by UTAH RAVEN由犹他州乌鸦--犹他.瑞文发首帖


The North Korea tests another nuke. 北朝鲜又在掏鼓那玩意儿了。

I wonder how we can deal with these people?不知道我们该咋办?

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We deal with them as we do with any nuclear armed nation with begrudging respect.

又不是没跟挥着核棒的国家交往过,用同样的办法,施舍给北朝鲜点尊敬吧。

-------aped


It seems to be confirmed.

有那么点苗头

---Justthefax



I guess the North wants some more hand outs.我猜想北朝鲜要亮几手。

It seems everytime they want to bleed the West for aid they do something like this.

好像他们要对西方国家狮子大开口,哪次不是这样。

----UTAH RAVEN


One size fits all, eh?

一刀切,呃?

I think Great Britain might be offended if we put them in the same bucket as North Korea and treat them the same way

我认为大不列颠可能不大感冒,如果将这些核国家一视同仁的话。

---jdsample


Excellent news!

有戏!

Of course, the imperialist UK, US and the most useless of all entities, the UN, will be squealing with their 'grave concern' or with the test being 'unacceptable' (what are you going to do about it) or violating some useless UN debate club for corrupt douchebags tree murdering 'resolution.

老牌的英国、美国、联合国,还有那些无用的国家们,用这样那样的借口说辞闹腾去吧!

-----dsummoner


the same way you would deal with a neighbor that showed they had the same gun you did..with respect..

手里都有家伙,和睦无事吧

-----keephopealive


These clowns need to be Bushified.

这些小丑真应该烧烤一下。

----David


I think North Korea is flexing mussel nothing more.

我感觉北朝鲜除了淹些咸菜别的没什么了。

They want more money.

他们想要更多的钱。

Its like a bum on the street who keeps asking for money every day you walk by.

跟个每天在你经过的路上伸手要钱的二赖子一样。

It's just this one has a weapon.

而且手里还有个棒棒

I wonder if people live where they are testing?

还有人生活在试验区?

I know it was a under ground test.

听说是在地下弄炸的。

We have an army in Iraq and some will be going home.

我们在伊拉克有军队,一些将要回家。

I think we should park some more of those troops in South Korea just in case.

我认为,我们应该可以从他们里抽调更多的驻扎在南朝鲜,留一手。

---UTAH RAVEN


omigod i totally poopt my pants! (没看明白,这人好像是个文盲)

save me republicans!

救我共和党!

---YDU8USA YDU8USA


It really will not be the presidents Idea.

这真的不会是总统的想法。

I am sure his top Pentagon brass is keeping him informed.

我相信,五角大楼的高级军官们会向他报告此事的。

His wife is most definitly not stupid.

他的妻子猴精。

---UTAH RAVEN


I wonder if they held the test because of our Memorial day?

就因为那天是我们的阵亡将士纪念日就弄出来这么个响?

--UTAH RAVEN



This guy is getting whacked around like a girl by the worlds other powers.

这个家伙跟个弱女子一样,受到四面力量的重击。

---baltbob21206 b



and after Former South Korean President takes the fall.

南朝鲜前总统刚刚有事

With terrorists and commies timing is everything.

恐怖分子和共产信徒,真是见空插针。

----John Henneman



Well, Obama is cutting our missle defense program.

嗯,奥巴马正在削减我们的导弹防御计划。

They sent their message, we sent ours.

一个在削减,一个在生产。

---mrdeltoid



im sure that will help the people in Alaska and Hawaii feel better,Since NK is trying to wrk the two places into their offensive envelope.

北韩正想把夏威夷和阿拉斯加列入了攻击范围,这两个地方的人可有好日子过了。

Please any such strike would be the end of North Korea and they know it.

稍微来点内乱,他们就玩完,北朝鲜很清楚。

The likely reason is what more astute posters have observed, they want more money and food for allowing South Korea to exist.

再清楚不过了,想多要点钱粮,跟在南韩屁股后面一起混日子。

---- aped


Say what you will about about Kim Jong Il, but he is a master at political extortion.

你是在说金二世,他是个政治勒索老手。

----mlatoman


Imagine how frustrated and insulted Kim Jong Il would be if the world simply treated him like the idiot kid down the street and ignored him - no TV news commentary, no newspaper articles, no media coverage of North Korea at all.

想象一下吧,如果世界只是对他像个路边的白痴,忽略他,没有电视新闻评论节目,报纸文章,没有北朝鲜的任何媒体报道,他该是如何的挫折和屈辱。

Even better - weekly media coverage of SOUTH Korea, extolling it's virtues.

甚至更好,每周媒体都报道一下韩国的优点。

I can see the little twerp now with his face beet-red, bouncing off the walls.

能看到这个小无用会红着脸,撞墙。

---Weeb



巴尔的摩太阳报论坛Yesterday, 01:04 AM


Gates: America is a paper tiger 盖茨:美国是纸老虎



Source :(主题)


The Defense chief says the Obama administration does not consider the nuclear program a direct threat, but he forcefully warns the regime against transferring nuclear material abroad.

防卫厅长官说,奥巴马政府不认为北朝鲜的核武器是个直接威胁,但他对核材料转移国外提出严重的警告。


"The transfer of nuclear weapons or material by North Korea to states or non-state entities would be considered a grave threat to the United States and its allies," Gates said in a speech at a security conference in Singapore.

“北朝鲜转让核武器或核材料到别的国家或非国家实体,将被视为是对美国及其盟国的严重威胁”盖茨在新加坡安的全会议上说。

"And we would hold North Korea fully accountable for the consequences of such action." “我们将要求朝鲜将对这种后果负责。”



Oh noes!!!哦,不!

The paper tiger will hold North Korea 'fully accountable.'

纸老虎让朝鲜负责

Kim Jong Il is so scared by the useless scabbard rattling of Gates et al.

盖茨,金二世好怕怕啊!

Face reality, Gates, et al.

睁大眼吧,盖茨你们这些人。

North Korea will do whatever they want, whenever the want and for whatever reason they wish.

朝鲜将为所欲为,任何时候,不需要任何理由的

And what are you going to do?

你会怎样做?

Nothing...

什么...

outside of squealing about what the North Koreans are doing.

北朝鲜的所为引起的尖叫声

Not one thing more will you do.

别的不用做。。

Do the troops a favor and pull them out of the Korean Peninsula.

多花点钱,把队伍拉到朝鲜半岛。

Hold North Korea 'fully accountable.'

让朝鲜完全负责。

ROFL! ROFL ! What are you smoking?

爆笑,您抽什么?

You and your political nobility masters don't even know how to fight an actual war anymore...

你和你的政治贵族主人甚至不知道如何打一场真正的战争了...

much less hold anyone 'accountable.'

更不用说追究任何人的'责任。

----dsummoner



Is this the same Gates BJ appointed???????

北京派来的???????

----baltbob21206


Hey, summoner is a mind-reader!(应该是dsummoner?)

嘿,楼上,比较有心。

I guess that nasty old commie Bush really goofed when he appointed him.

任命他,我猜测讨厌的老共产主义信徒布什真犯糊涂了

----HelloDollyLlama


It is called analytical skill, little one.

这就是所谓的看得透,小家伙。

Take a look at Clark's Intelligence Analysis:

看看克拉克的情报分析。上面说:

Bush goofed big time...

布什呢,大部分时间在闲混

... in so many ways.

在许多方面。

Obama only expands on such goofiness.

奥巴马只是更加会闲混了。

Such is to be expected with the US having its wick stuck in everybody's business while at the same time having exposed itself as unwilling to actually wage war.

可以预期,美国现在这一团杂事,没愿意发动战争的。

So readily predictable that even the Salafi jihadist ideologists (such as Abu Bakr Nadji) predicted miring of US forces but wished for it in order to expose the paper tiger nature of the current political-military brass structure.

随时可预见的,即使是Salafi jihadist预言了泥沼中的美国军队,我们还是希望以此揭露当前的政治、军事人事结构的纸老虎性质。

Tell me HDL...

告诉我,高密度脂蛋白...

with your 'analytical skill...'你的分析技能...

'What is Gates going to do?盖茨要怎么办

Squeal to the useless UN?只会对联合国无用地嚎叫么?

Squeal about 'sanctions' on North Korea?用噪声来制裁朝鲜?

Go begging to the Chinese?到中国去要碗饭?

Gates is hemmed in by the realities of the geopolitics of the region and the 'spread thin' deployment nature of current US operations on a global basis.

盖茨让当前各热点区域和美国在全球的惨淡经营缠住了马腿

North Korea can do whatever it wishes and there is not a thing that the US can or will do about it.北朝鲜可以为所欲为,而美国却对此无可奈何,甚至是根本不想为此做点什么。

----dsummoner


Being snotty, alas, is not an argument.

小屁孩,这能说明什么?

And you really think America isn't willing to fight?

你们真认为美国不愿意干一架?

Obama just slaughtered a bunch of pirates and put the US Navy off the Chinese coast in retaliation for harassing one of our ships.

奥巴马刚刚宰杀了一群海盗,并且为治一下中国人骚扰我们的船,在中国海岸附近投入了海军兵力。

America has more options than you think, now that we have a competent President and Secretary of Defense.

美国的点子比你多得是,现在我们有一个称职的总统和国防部长。

Militarily and economically North Korea has serious problems, and China doesn't want a direct confrontation with us right now; also the Chinese have had years to take the lead on Korea and they accomplished nothing, so throwing a hissy at any US action wouldn't be terribly credible.

军事上和经济上,北朝鲜有严重的问题,并且中国现在不想与我们直接交锋; 再说,中国不是北朝鲜,由于对付北朝鲜一事无成,因此,美国做出任何行动,都有可能的。

Even if we did something dead simple like bombing the Yongbyon reactor into rubble, that would get the message across to Pyongyang -- and Tehran too.

单单是将宁边核反应堆轰炸成一片废墟,平壤-和德黑兰马上就会明白。

Perhaps you should have stayed in bed today, after yesterday.

你屎皮还没掉。

----HelloDollyLlama


Your mistaking snottiness for giving yo what you deserve, which is slapping down your lies, evasions, attacks, and laughably misplaced arrogance.

嚣张狂妄的家伙

So Obama has already shown a willingness to fight, in two wars and two provocations – and you think it has no bearing on his willingness to fight in Korea?

因此,奥巴马已表明愿意斗争,同时两个战争,你认为这不会影响他愿意打韩国?

吧!

North Korea is in trouble every way imaginable.

北朝鲜能给你带你所能想像出的麻烦。

If this medieval country took us on militarily, it would be over before it started.

如果这个中世纪国家对我们动手,会在它动手前让它完蛋。

It's not 1950, and the Koreans won't get help from the Chinese army this time.

这不是1950年,北时鲜这回将从中国那里得到不帮助。

And we have repeatedly expressed full commitment to defending South Korea, and the North knows it.

北朝鲜也知道,我们已一再表示,完全致力于捍卫韩国。

Perhaps it's time for you to look for another hobby....

你哪发财哪去吧

---HelloDollyLlama


Your 'slaps' have thus far only come back around and hit you.

你砖头也是在拍你自己

The low hanging fruit but passable for simple amusement.

低调做人,娱乐而已。。

Fighting 'pirates,' continuing Bush's debacle in Afghanistan/Pakistan and putting ships off of the waters of China correlated to a willingness to fight in Korea...

战斗不息的海盗、布什在阿富汗/巴基斯坦留下的大混乱、越来越多的投入到南中国海的船只,跟志愿军联系一起了(?)

A full fledged war with a determined, competent and thoroughly armed adversary in North Korea is not even in the same realm.

跟一个坚定、能干、完全武装的敌人,在北朝鲜的异国土地上战斗

ROFL! ROFL ! Approval ratings and 'bipartisanship' equate to competency in the current geopolitical arena?

爆笑!支持率和所谓的“两党合作”就代表了处理地区事务上的能力么?

Do you know even the first thing about the military capabilities of the North Koreans?

你知道北朝鲜军事实力的最重要的是什么?

Perhaps something about the extant deployment strategy of North Korean armor and artillery units?

北朝鲜的装甲和炮兵部队现存部署战略?

Perhaps you can contribute something, even qualitatively, regarding the location of Seoul as such relates to current North Korean artillery deployments?

也许你能贡献点玩意?比方说北朝鲜火炮的布署、汉城在哪儿?

Perhaps a comment on conventional force strength of the North Koreans v. that of the US?

也可能是个美朝常规力量的评论?

As far as the Chinese...

至于中国人。。。。。。

they would not sit back even if their involvement was limited to war by proxy outside of direct material and troop support.

即使他们对战争的介入被------限制

ROFL! ROFL !

爆笑!

Displacement!动一下!

Good one Squid!一条好鱿鱼!

----dsummoner


So you're still arguing that Obama has shown a willingness to fight on four other fronts, but not on Korea?

因此,您仍然认为,奥巴马已经表示愿意斗争四个地方,但不是在北朝鲜?

A fight with Korea would not be a full-fledged war.

与北朝鲜斗一下,不会爆发全面战争。

The North Koreans would collapse in zero time.

朝鲜将会崩溃零。

Bipartisan support substantiates competency.

两党的支持证实能力。

Assessing the diplomatic and military capabilities of foreign countries is part of what I do for a living.

评估的外交和军事能力的国家,是我的谋生之道。

Perhaps not as pertinent as being a crashtest dummy, but perhaps you'd like to hear me out on these issues.

假如不是一个撞车的钝汉,或许你可以听听我的这些观点。

And the Chinese, with all their current problems, are not going to launch a gigantic war to defend Pyongyang's idiotic nuclear ambitions.

至于中国人,与他们目前所困扰的问题相比,不会为了平壤的白痴核野心,进行一次大战的。

---HelloDollyLlama



North Korea is a different front.

北朝鲜是一个不同的战线。

The concept is very easy to understand.

这个概念是非常容易理解。

LOL!

大声笑!

----dsummoner


It was 3 teenagers peeing their pants not knowing what to do.

三个屎孩子。

US Special Forces did the slaughtering.

美国特种部队屠杀

BO never served a day in the armed forces, and never slaughtered anything but the constitution.

Bo一天从未在军队中呆过,也没有杀过任何人,但宪法-----

----mrdeltoid


Nice way to start the day...listening to liberals cheer for Kim Jong and the North Korean regime that has led to canniblism in the northern provinces of North Korea...while the leader of the regime starves his people for nuclear weapons production...here at home we have ignorant liberals sitting at their tables eating organic food....and laughing at the world's clueless dictators and smearing it's own government officials...not a pretty picture....and the ignorance and stupidity of liberals is just astonishing...blaming Bush????

一天最好这样度过:…聆听自由派为金正日和朝鲜政权欢呼,这个人朝北北部的残忍,当政的领导为了核武器生产让人民挨饿…这里有无知的在吃着有机食品的自由主义者….对着世界上无知的独裁者笑并且污蔑着自己的政府…不是一张俏丽的图片….并且自由主义者无知和愚蠢是令人惊讶的公正…责备布什? ? ? ?


Wasn't it Bill Clinton who gave the money and tech support to the North Koreans to begin their nuclear program???是不是克林顿给了资金和技术支持朝鲜开始其核计划? ? ?

You people are just idiots and have no clue what the people of N.Korea are facing for survival under this vicious dictator...and all it means to the left is laughter.

你们就是白痴,对南朝鲜人生活在这位狠毒的独裁者的威胁之下一点办法也没有,还弥漫着笑声

----Newhorizon


It was not US Special Forces who took out the Somalian pirates...it was a platoon of Navy Seals.不是美国特种部队打掉的过马里海盗,是美国海军特种部队

---newhorizon


Yawn.

哈欠。

More Straw Men.

更多秸秆男子。

----HelloDollyLlama


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