Baltimore Sun talk forum 巴尔的摩太阳报论坛05-24-2009, 10:41 PM
National/World News Talk about events happening across the country and around the world
Originally Posted by UTAH RAVEN由犹他州乌鸦--犹他.瑞文发首帖
The North Korea tests another nuke. 北朝鲜又在掏鼓那玩意儿了。
I wonder how we can deal with these people?不知道我们该咋办？
We deal with them as we do with any nuclear armed nation with begrudging respect.
It seems to be confirmed.
I guess the North wants some more hand outs.我猜想北朝鲜要亮几手。
It seems everytime they want to bleed the West for aid they do something like this.
One size fits all, eh?
I think Great Britain might be offended if we put them in the same bucket as North Korea and treat them the same way
Of course, the imperialist UK, US and the most useless of all entities, the UN, will be squealing with their 'grave concern' or with the test being 'unacceptable' (what are you going to do about it) or violating some useless UN debate club for corrupt douchebags tree murdering 'resolution.
the same way you would deal with a neighbor that showed they had the same gun you did..with respect..
These clowns need to be Bushified.
I think North Korea is flexing mussel nothing more.
They want more money.
Its like a bum on the street who keeps asking for money every day you walk by.
It's just this one has a weapon.
I wonder if people live where they are testing?
I know it was a under ground test.
We have an army in Iraq and some will be going home.
I think we should park some more of those troops in South Korea just in case.
omigod i totally poopt my pants! （没看明白，这人好像是个文盲）
save me republicans!
It really will not be the presidents Idea.
I am sure his top Pentagon brass is keeping him informed.
His wife is most definitly not stupid.
I wonder if they held the test because of our Memorial day?
This guy is getting whacked around like a girl by the worlds other powers.
and after Former South Korean President takes the fall.
With terrorists and commies timing is everything.
Well, Obama is cutting our missle defense program.
They sent their message, we sent ours.
im sure that will help the people in Alaska and Hawaii feel better，Since NK is trying to wrk the two places into their offensive envelope.
Please any such strike would be the end of North Korea and they know it.
The likely reason is what more astute posters have observed, they want more money and food for allowing South Korea to exist.
Say what you will about about Kim Jong Il, but he is a master at political extortion.
Imagine how frustrated and insulted Kim Jong Il would be if the world simply treated him like the idiot kid down the street and ignored him - no TV news commentary, no newspaper articles, no media coverage of North Korea at all.
Even better - weekly media coverage of SOUTH Korea, extolling it's virtues.
I can see the little twerp now with his face beet-red, bouncing off the walls.
巴尔的摩太阳报论坛Yesterday, 01:04 AM
Gates: America is a paper tiger 盖茨：美国是纸老虎
The Defense chief says the Obama administration does not consider the nuclear program a direct threat, but he forcefully warns the regime against transferring nuclear material abroad.
"The transfer of nuclear weapons or material by North Korea to states or non-state entities would be considered a grave threat to the United States and its allies," Gates said in a speech at a security conference in Singapore.
"And we would hold North Korea fully accountable for the consequences of such action." “我们将要求朝鲜将对这种后果负责。”
The paper tiger will hold North Korea 'fully accountable.'
Kim Jong Il is so scared by the useless scabbard rattling of Gates et al.
Face reality, Gates, et al.
North Korea will do whatever they want, whenever the want and for whatever reason they wish.
And what are you going to do?
outside of squealing about what the North Koreans are doing.
Not one thing more will you do.
Do the troops a favor and pull them out of the Korean Peninsula.
Hold North Korea 'fully accountable.'
ROFL! ROFL ！ What are you smoking?
You and your political nobility masters don't even know how to fight an actual war anymore...
much less hold anyone 'accountable.'
Is this the same Gates BJ appointed???????
Hey, summoner is a mind-reader!（应该是dsummoner？）
I guess that nasty old commie Bush really goofed when he appointed him.
It is called analytical skill, little one.
Take a look at Clark's Intelligence Analysis：
Bush goofed big time...
... in so many ways.
Obama only expands on such goofiness.
Such is to be expected with the US having its wick stuck in everybody's business while at the same time having exposed itself as unwilling to actually wage war.
So readily predictable that even the Salafi jihadist ideologists (such as Abu Bakr Nadji) predicted miring of US forces but wished for it in order to expose the paper tiger nature of the current political-military brass structure.
Tell me HDL...
with your 'analytical skill...'你的分析技能...
'What is Gates going to do?盖茨要怎么办
Squeal to the useless UN?只会对联合国无用地嚎叫么？
Squeal about 'sanctions' on North Korea?用噪声来制裁朝鲜？
Go begging to the Chinese?到中国去要碗饭？
Gates is hemmed in by the realities of the geopolitics of the region and the 'spread thin' deployment nature of current US operations on a global basis.
North Korea can do whatever it wishes and there is not a thing that the US can or will do about it.北朝鲜可以为所欲为，而美国却对此无可奈何，甚至是根本不想为此做点什么。
Being snotty, alas, is not an argument.
And you really think America isn't willing to fight?
Obama just slaughtered a bunch of pirates and put the US Navy off the Chinese coast in retaliation for harassing one of our ships.
America has more options than you think, now that we have a competent President and Secretary of Defense.
Militarily and economically North Korea has serious problems, and China doesn't want a direct confrontation with us right now; also the Chinese have had years to take the lead on Korea and they accomplished nothing, so throwing a hissy at any US action wouldn't be terribly credible.
Even if we did something dead simple like bombing the Yongbyon reactor into rubble, that would get the message across to Pyongyang -- and Tehran too.
Perhaps you should have stayed in bed today, after yesterday.
Your mistaking snottiness for giving yo what you deserve, which is slapping down your lies, evasions, attacks, and laughably misplaced arrogance.
So Obama has already shown a willingness to fight, in two wars and two provocations – and you think it has no bearing on his willingness to fight in Korea?
North Korea is in trouble every way imaginable.
If this medieval country took us on militarily, it would be over before it started.
It's not 1950, and the Koreans won't get help from the Chinese army this time.
And we have repeatedly expressed full commitment to defending South Korea, and the North knows it.
Perhaps it's time for you to look for another hobby....
Your 'slaps' have thus far only come back around and hit you.
The low hanging fruit but passable for simple amusement.
Fighting 'pirates,' continuing Bush's debacle in Afghanistan/Pakistan and putting ships off of the waters of China correlated to a willingness to fight in Korea...
A full fledged war with a determined, competent and thoroughly armed adversary in North Korea is not even in the same realm.
ROFL! ROFL ！ Approval ratings and 'bipartisanship' equate to competency in the current geopolitical arena?
Do you know even the first thing about the military capabilities of the North Koreans?
Perhaps something about the extant deployment strategy of North Korean armor and artillery units?
Perhaps you can contribute something, even qualitatively, regarding the location of Seoul as such relates to current North Korean artillery deployments?
Perhaps a comment on conventional force strength of the North Koreans v. that of the US?
As far as the Chinese...
they would not sit back even if their involvement was limited to war by proxy outside of direct material and troop support.
ROFL! ROFL ！
Good one Squid!一条好鱿鱼！
So you're still arguing that Obama has shown a willingness to fight on four other fronts, but not on Korea?
A fight with Korea would not be a full-fledged war.
The North Koreans would collapse in zero time.
Bipartisan support substantiates competency.
Assessing the diplomatic and military capabilities of foreign countries is part of what I do for a living.
Perhaps not as pertinent as being a crashtest dummy, but perhaps you'd like to hear me out on these issues.
And the Chinese, with all their current problems, are not going to launch a gigantic war to defend Pyongyang's idiotic nuclear ambitions.
North Korea is a different front.
The concept is very easy to understand.
It was 3 teenagers peeing their pants not knowing what to do.
US Special Forces did the slaughtering.
BO never served a day in the armed forces, and never slaughtered anything but the constitution.
Nice way to start the day...listening to liberals cheer for Kim Jong and the North Korean regime that has led to canniblism in the northern provinces of North Korea...while the leader of the regime starves his people for nuclear weapons production...here at home we have ignorant liberals sitting at their tables eating organic food....and laughing at the world's clueless dictators and smearing it's own government officials...not a pretty picture....and the ignorance and stupidity of liberals is just astonishing...blaming Bush????
一天最好这样度过：…聆听自由派为金正日和朝鲜政权欢呼，这个人朝北北部的残忍，当政的领导为了核武器生产让人民挨饿…这里有无知的在吃着有机食品的自由主义者….对着世界上无知的独裁者笑并且污蔑着自己的政府…不是一张俏丽的图片….并且自由主义者无知和愚蠢是令人惊讶的公正…责备布什？ ？ ？ ？
Wasn't it Bill Clinton who gave the money and tech support to the North Koreans to begin their nuclear program???是不是克林顿给了资金和技术支持朝鲜开始其核计划？ ？ ？
You people are just idiots and have no clue what the people of N.Korea are facing for survival under this vicious dictator...and all it means to the left is laughter.
It was not US Special Forces who took out the Somalian pirates...it was a platoon of Navy Seals.不是美国特种部队打掉的过马里海盗，是美国海军特种部队
More Straw Men.